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baineschile @ 1st Jun 12:14PM:
Re: How???
Easy as pie; converted ALL channels to a digitized format and 4 channel bonding. Thats more than enough, even in an 850 MHz system.
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baineschile @ 1st Jun 12:15PM:
Re: Check out this thread
Where are these rumors coming from?
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DarkLogix @ 1st Jun 12:15PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
actually its more of a soft boogyman cap
I have friends that regularly use over 500GB and no call
so its more of watch yourself if you go over they might give you a warning
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Mike Wolf @ 1st Jun 12:17PM:
Re: Check out this thread
When I called and asked about the D3 services, and commented "so with these faster speeds, users are more likely to hit their 250GB cap right?" and I was told Comcast was considering raising the cap for those subscribers.
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maartena @ 1st Jun 12:33PM:
All this BS about 100 Mbps....
No one really needs it, and in this economy the price isn't right either. I would much rather have them focus on stable connections with a decent upload speed, for instance 20 down, 10 up.
DOCSIS 3.0 can do this too, but ISPs seem desperately afraid of upload speed.
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Eat Me @ 1st Jun 12:34PM:
Re: Meh
said by iansltx :
I don't see any use for anything above their 22 Mbps package with a 250GB cap. Also, upload speeds comapred to fiber are anemic; I'm guessing Comcast will trot out 15 Mbps like Cablevision did and call it a day?
Well, considering that Verizon FiOS doesn't have anything higher than 20Mbps for upload available to the public right now, I'd say that 15Mbps isn't so bad compared to what the competition has.
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baineschile @ 1st Jun 12:38PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
Maybe CC should offer just a good old 1Mb service, with no other options. That way, the discussion of how fast you can hit your caps will be moot.
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Eat Me @ 1st Jun 12:38PM:
Re: How???
said by bac522 :
I'd like to know how Comcast plans on support these speeds. Simply put...on a 1000MHz cable plant there is only so much speed one can offer and at what point does Comcast say that it's more import to provide HD channels then it is to support Internet. Look at any company report Comcast clearly makes more money from video then they do from Internet. At some point Comcast is going to have to stop robbing Peter to pay Paul!
Even if they put all the video below 860MHz and used 860-1000MHz for the cable modems, if you use 256QAM there is almost 1Gbps of bandwidth available.
Remember that Verizon has all of its video from 54-860MHz and they offer 100 HD channels.
This doesn't even take into account MPEG4 technology which pizza dish is using but cable can deploy.
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Eat Me @ 1st Jun 12:40PM:
Re: All this BS about 100 Mbps....
said by maartena :
DOCSIS 3.0 can do this too, but ISPs seem desperately afraid of upload speed.
That's because the return path is from 5-40MHz which is full of noise. It's a miracle they can even use it for anything more than 5Mbps honestly.
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iansltx @ 1st Jun 12:44PM:
Re: Meh
15 Mbps isn't bad, but it's not terribly great either. 20 Mbps is 33% faster than 15 (yay math) and other fiber deployments re doing symmetric 30 or 50 Mbps. I dunno, guess I'm not a fan of >6:1 asymmetric internet.
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i1me2ao @ 1st Jun 01:06PM:
yes
but there will be
high speed tax for sending information down tubes 19.95
special colored taxable modem 3.27
useless made up fee 1.27
international monetary mexican fee .97
cable line upgrade fee 4.73
another made up fee that no can explain 13.24
so total cost will be only 99.00 a month for the first 30 seconds and 189.00 for regular use.
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jun 01:07PM:
Re: Meh
Just to add, FiOS 20Mbps uploads can be had at a much lower cost. You don't have to get a $99+ package to see these upload speeds. And with the FiOS symmetrical 20/20 package, there is absolutely no impact on the downloads when maxing your upload. This is ideal when you have multiple users sharing the connection in your home.
When I had Comcast, using an online backup site completely crippled my network. Maybe it was just me, but I suspect that this is inherent to how cable works, because I had the same issues with Adelphia (RIP) at a different residence.
Now I have a non-symmetrical 50/20 connection with Verizon FiOS, and I still see my downloads impacted when I am maxing my uploads; however, my download speed never dips below 20Mbps, and it usually averages around 40Mbps. Although, all of this had to be measured through specific testing, as I hardly ever come across a situation where I would require both maximum downloading and uploading concurrently for any length of time.
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Eat Me @ 1st Jun 01:10PM:
Re: Meh
said by jmn1207 :
And with the FiOS symmetrical 20/20 package, there is absolutely no impact on the downloads when maxing your upload.
Truly spoken like someone who knows zero about networking or TCP/IP.
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jun 01:14PM:
Re: Meh
said by Eat Me :said by jmn1207 :
And with the FiOS symmetrical 20/20 package, there is absolutely no impact on the downloads when maxing your upload.
Truly spoken like someone who knows zero about networking or TCP/IP.
Right, I'll just refer to my TCP/IP for Dummies book to help me when I get stuck. I'm in no way trying to be technical. This is simply the results found by several FiOS users that have the 20/20 package. These people see sustained speeds very close to their maximum.
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anon @ 1st Jun 01:24PM:
FASTER
As far as the speeds go I hope they continue (capped or not). History shows when more of the population can get better throughput the Internet gets better and has more to offer. I welcome it and wonder what the future of the Internet will hold. Anyone remember watching the text scroll by on the local BBS using a 300 baud modem? My how the Interwebs have changed.
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BF69 @ 1st Jun 01:40PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by baineschile :
Thats true, but the upload helps with hosting :)
You know that's against the TOS. You want to host get a BUSINESS account.
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iansltx @ 1st Jun 01:46PM:
Re: Meh
When you've got a highly asymmetric, shared system the effects of doing DL/UL simultaneously are a lot more noticeable. Also, depending on the protocol, you can do maybe 1.5 KB/s of upload traffic to deal with 1 MB/s of download traffic. AKA practically nothing.
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PaulHikeS2 @ 1st Jun 01:46PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by major marco :said by me1212 :
With a 250GB cap.
You can enjoy 100 Mbps and exceed the cap, just make sure that you write Comcrap a blank check for the privilege.
Rather surprised you didn't realize this because I've seen you post a lot. They don't charge overage fees.
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jadebangle @ 1st Jun 01:51PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by DarkLogix :
actually its more of a soft boogyman cap
I have friends that regularly use over 500GB and no call
so its more of watch yourself if you go over they might give you a warning
I average about 750gb a month with comcast, stayed with them for 6 months until I went fiber optic at 10mbps symmetrical at 53.99
Nice move? Now I am averaging about 1.5tb a month download and upload.. Still pretty disappointed at 10mbps that's a far cry from 100mbps :(
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anon @ 1st Jun 03:50PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
YET !!!
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BF69 @ 1st Jun 02:00PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by Matt :said by me1212 :
With a 250GB cap.
That is not that bad. I left Hulu HD running for 15 or 16 hours yesterday and it used a whopping 4GB or so. I can't separate out my other traffic usage, but the entire day was only 5GB.
and except for the very very few HD shows they have at most their shows and movies stream at a paltry 1 Mbps which is barely 480p. 720p quality shows/movies would run about 3 GB per hour. So 2 1/2 hours day would put you over the cap. If you have a family of 4 then each person only gets about 40 minutes a day. That's assuming you use your internet connection for watching online video and nothing else.
In the near future even a 1 TB cap is not going to be enough.
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jadebangle @ 1st Jun 02:02PM:
Re: All this BS about 100 Mbps....
said by maartena :
No one really needs it, and in this economy the price isn't right either. I would much rather have them focus on stable connections with a decent upload speed, for instance 20 down, 10 up.
DOCSIS 3.0 can do this too, but ISPs seem desperately afraid of upload speed.
They are not afraid of upload but are lacking in upload bandwidth due to hidden limitation on their backbone
I would rather not have a stable 10mbps over 100mbps that fluctuate a lot which is what all high speed connection experience due to traffic congestion, traffic shaping, routing problems and other issues like too many ppl on at the same time.
You may as well go with 1mbps because it even more stable then 10mbps and even more stable then 100mbps :)
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jadebangle @ 1st Jun 02:09PM:
Re: FASTER
said by Cybrtweek :
As far as the speeds go I hope they continue (capped or not). History shows when more of the population can get better throughput the Internet gets better and has more to offer. I welcome it and wonder what the future of the Internet will hold. Anyone remember watching the text scroll by on the local BBS using a 300 baud modem? My how the Interwebs have changed.
300baud is no longer in use, its ancient history... bbs extinct since the early 90's...
56k still use by few these day for web connection...
these speed are limited due to analog connection but on digital like fios, the speed are symmetric and can potentially go even higher then 100mbps, 1gbps is in the near future. fios 50mbps is like dsl at 128kbps or worse 64kbps
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jun 02:10PM:
Re: Meh
said by iansltx :
When you've got a highly asymmetric, shared system the effects of doing DL/UL simultaneously are a lot more noticeable. Also, depending on the protocol, you can do maybe 1.5 KB/s of upload traffic to deal with 1 MB/s of download traffic. AKA practically nothing.
The general rule of thumb, without using specific packet shaping, is that your download will be roughly identical to your maximum sustained upload. Folks with 20/5 FiOS connections will see their downloads drop to around 5Mbps while uploading at maximum.
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BF69 @ 1st Jun 02:35PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by jadebangle :said by DarkLogix :
actually its more of a soft boogyman cap
I have friends that regularly use over 500GB and no call
so its more of watch yourself if you go over they might give you a warning
I average about 750gb a month with comcast, stayed with them for 6 months until I went fiber optic at 10mbps symmetrical at 53.99
Nice move? Now I am averaging about 1.5tb a month download and upload.. Still pretty disappointed at 10mbps that's a far cry from 100mbps :(
That's alot of illegal movies you're downloading
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Vamp @ 1st Jun 02:41PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by baineschile :
What markets do FiOS and Comcast overlap in? I am aware of a few places on the east coast (Virginia, NJ) are there any others in the midwest or west?
Comcast and another cable company both serve my area and I have FIOS.
They overlap most everywhere since FIOS is in mostly the same states as comcast.
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Cjaiceman @ 1st Jun 02:45PM:
Re: All this BS about 100 Mbps....
said by Eat Me :said by maartena :
DOCSIS 3.0 can do this too, but ISPs seem desperately afraid of upload speed.
That's because the return path is from 5-40MHz which is full of noise. It's a miracle they can even use it for anything more than 5Mbps honestly.
The return path works great, I want more! :D
No D3 here, this is just D2
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Cjaiceman @ 1st Jun 02:51PM:
Re: FASTER
I remember the slow DSL days, actually we had a 144kbps ISDN line from AT&T in the late 90's early 2000's, which got broken into U S WEST. We even had the old SpeedStream modem and everything, it was great for its time, just coming off of 56K dial-up, no cable or DSL available yet...
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Astieroth @ 1st Jun 03:07PM:
Can they handle it 24/7?
So you run a speed test at 8PM in your market...are you going to see 100Mbps? Oversubscription anywhere?
Not being sarcastic...just wondering how Comcast runs their nodes.
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fiberguy @ 1st Jun 03:13PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by me1212 :
With a 250GB cap.
Who said "250gb cap"... so far, this is a "rumor".. second, in that same "rumor" I see nothing about a cap.. are you assuming? The assumption COULD very well be correct as speed doesn't necessarily equate to transfer. For some people, they'll do the same thing, only in shorter time, while others see the need to download everything in sight just for the fun of it..
.. but as for now, your post, as simple as it is, seems make me believe you already know it will be 250gb, which I personally doubt.
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54903205 @ 1st Jun 03:13PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by baineschile :
What markets do FiOS and Comcast overlap in? I am aware of a few places on the east coast (Virginia, NJ) are there any others in the midwest or west?
Delaware.
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baineschile @ 1st Jun 03:49PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
A higher upload increases my chance to host a game; i dont host a server.
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anon @ 1st Jun 03:49PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
Call a wahmbulance already, person who gets paid to post message about caps on every Comcast story
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anon @ 1st Jun 04:04PM:
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tmc8080 @ 1st Jun 04:21PM:
trickle at best
there will only be a trickle of early adopters to the pricey package. these upfront activation fees have got to stop.. this is NOT the 1980's cell phone activation type deal.. so, imo it's a ripoff and money grab, but others say so what.. FIOS is a higher price in their 50/20 tier so it all balances out. whatever, if they truly wanted to 1-up the competition it was supposed to be $99 for 101/15 or similar for $99 a month, UNLIMITED. PERIOD. END OF STORY. This is but the tip of the iceberg of what they could have done. Clearly the cable industry can't stand the pressure of losing video customers at the expense of ISP customers. Boo Hoo, break out the violins!
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BF69 @ 1st Jun 04:45PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by baineschile :
A higher upload increases my chance to host a game; i dont host a server.
How much upload do you need to host a game? Hell one can do that with 2 Mbps upload. Besides hosting a game MAY violate the TOS. I don't know the nuts and bolts of Comast's TOS.
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espaeth @ 1st Jun 04:45PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by me1212 :
Yes it is a decent cap, but when CV has 101m with no cap
But it's not real. Ignoring overhead, there are 4 x 38mbps channels on the entire segment that users are connected to. That's 152mpbs of total capacity shared across at least 100 subscribers, if not more. Under the 101mbps plan, exactly 1 person on the segment can consume that bandwidth at any given time.
You have to see these plans for what they are; they are no different than the late-night infomercials that promise 6-pack abs in 3 weeks.
At this point you're just comparing the BS claims of one company against the BS claims of another company.
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Fluker @ 1st Jun 04:50PM:
who can even use that?
I want to know what websites can even push 50mbps to you. I guess that one advantage is that if you have a half dozen computers on your connection, all downloading different stuff from various sites, they are less likely to saturate the connection...
But what I'm thinking though is that even massive sites like microsoft, apple, youtube etc, won't come close to 20mbps so for a single user, this is total overkill.
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espaeth @ 1st Jun 04:54PM:
Re: Can they handle it 24/7?
said by Astieroth :
So you run a speed test at 8PM in your market...are you going to see 100Mbps? Oversubscription anywhere?
Oversubscription everywhere.
Check out the OOL forums -- even a good number of people subscribing to 30mbps Boost service don't see that consistently.
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anon @ 1st Jun 05:01PM:
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digitalfreak @ 1st Jun 05:04PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
Assume much? You have no idea what he's doing.
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sonicmerlin @ 1st Jun 05:26PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
It's called splitting the nodes, which is not that expensive for the company to do. And not everyone in the area has the highest tier of broadband. The vast majority subscribe to the lowest tier.
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sonicmerlin @ 1st Jun 05:30PM:
Re: Meh
Well obviously there's no reason. Applications and businesses don't form until there's a market for their services. Until enough people have ultra high-speed connections the services to *use* those ultra high speeds will never form. So OF COURSE there's no reason yet.
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sonicmerlin @ 1st Jun 05:38PM:
Re: who can even use that?
I like to do things simultaneously. It's the reason I got a quad-core CPU. Load a few different youtube videos at HQ. Or maybe watch HULU while a torrent is running in the background, or maybe play some SC while downloading something. It's not always about absolute speeds from one source.
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sturmvogel @ 1st Jun 05:45PM:
Re: Check out this thread
said by Mike Wolf :
When I called and asked about the D3 services, and commented "so with these faster speeds, users are more likely to hit their 250GB cap right?" and I was told Comcast was considering raising the cap for those subscribers.
Yeah, by a rep trying to sell you something. Let's look at the track record and see which is more likely, cap or no cap ?
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cornelius785 @ 1st Jun 05:50PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
now you can hit the 250GB cap in a day
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iansltx @ 1st Jun 06:01PM:
Re: Meh
Meh, there *is* a reason, it's ust that most people don't have the connection to bear that one out. Search for "The Need for Speed" (I think it was a Friday link last weekend) or something like that. The research company has a couple dozen pages about all the awesome things we could do with super high speed internet.
As for right now, cloud computing, particularly streaming all your files from a remote server for devices like netbooks, is a big thing. Backup is a HUGE deal. SLingbox-style stuff, particularly in HD...the list goes on. Granted, a lot of the above applications are server-type deals but it's the wave of the future.
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wentlanc @ 1st Jun 06:03PM:
Re: Meh
And why is that? Please explain your logic that in and out would be equal on a file transfer.
In any file transfer, you have payload going one way, and acknowlegements / retransmit requests going the other. FYI, ack packets are empty packets @32 bytes with the ack bit set to 1 instead of 0. They are not 1500 byte packets stuffed with data. Also, you only ack after receiving a specific amount of data, also know as the window size.
I don't know how you figure that a 32 byte packet out for every 16K+ bytes in could possibly be symmetrical.
cw
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anon @ 1st Jun 06:04PM:
50/10
How about you cut the price of your 50/10 tier in half :)
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hbk4099 @ 1st Jun 06:10PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by espaeth :said by me1212 :
Yes it is a decent cap, but when CV has 101m with no cap
But it's not real. Ignoring overhead, there are 4 x 38mbps channels on the entire segment that users are connected to. That's 152mpbs of total capacity shared across at least 100 subscribers, if not more. Under the 101mbps plan, exactly 1 person on the segment can consume that bandwidth at any given time.
You have to see these plans for what they are; they are no different than the late-night infomercials that promise 6-pack abs in 3 weeks.
At this point you're just comparing the BS claims of one company against the BS claims of another company.
maybe you should read the cablevision forums with the people who have ultra and have been getting anywere from 92-120Mbp/s
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wentlanc @ 1st Jun 06:17PM:
Re: Check out this thread
Haha.... how damn funny. So they sell you the capabilities that your 50 meg tier can already do, but mask it in a speed upgrade that is for the most part worthless because most users cannot leverage the speed.
A 250 gig cap can be achieved in a month using ~1mbps connection. So they are selling you 1/50th or 1/100th of what you are paying for. They are getting more money to bump people to higher tiers of service, but making you feel better because you get more transfer.
People, this is their next plan to fleece you. Put in a cap, and then offer higher tiers for more money, and incent you with the cap.
cw
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hottboiinnc @ 1st Jun 06:27PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
Not the mid west states. No FiOS to be seen here. Just DSL. Which cable blows away.
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wentlanc @ 1st Jun 06:27PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
None of this is real, and that's why people are not happy.
The 50 meg tier can transfer 16 Terabytes in a month. They are giving you 1.5% of the bandwidth that they are charging you for. The 100 meg teir is pointless except as a method to add revenue for people who use more than the cap. The speed upgrade at that point is pointless.
$$ grab....
How much of what you pay for should you actually be able to get?
cw
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hottboiinnc @ 1st Jun 06:32PM:
Re: Meanwhie, on the 4th largest city...
Interesting since Adrian Mich (part of the DT service area of CC) has D3 in beta from several people/businesses around the city.
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me1212 @ 1st Jun 06:32PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
I know 1Tb will not be enough soon, right now it kinda is but in a few years we will need at least 2TB. Man I hope the cap dies. I don't care if the ISPs just drop it cause they see a way to get money from it or if it is because stuff like FiOS cablevision and other uncaped cablecos(or FTTH/other ISPs) force them to via competition(IMHO the best solution).
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Mike Wolf @ 1st Jun 06:50PM:
Re: Check out this thread
Can't sell me anything when I don't have it in my area yet and she knew it. Can't make a comission when for all me and her know its six months away....
I really don't mind the cap limit since I don't use my account to file share peer to peer or anything. The only people who seem to have a problem with it are people who do, at least from what I've seen so far.
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espaeth @ 1st Jun 06:58PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by hbk4099 :
maybe you should read the cablevision forums with the people who have ultra and have been getting anywere from 92-120Mbp/s
Let's see how those stats look in 6 months when more than a handful of people in the entire OOL service area have Ultra subscriptions.
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espaeth @ 1st Jun 07:04PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by wentlanc :
The 50 meg tier can transfer 16 Terabytes in a month. They are giving you 1.5% of the bandwidth that they are charging you for.
Unless you're paying $500+/mo, you're not even starting to pay for dedicated 50mbps service.
said by wentlanc :
How much of what you pay for should you actually be able to get?
That depends on if you understand what you are actually paying for. Not the crap the marketing departments are telling you, but what you are honestly paying for.
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jmn1207 @ 1st Jun 07:06PM:
Re: Meh
It seems as if the ACK packets run into a bottleneck when my upload was saturated, at least this was the case using typical protocols for browsing and file transfers, as my downloads were severely gimped when I had 16/2 Comcast and 8/1 Adelphia cable. Torrents, or similar peer-to-peer protocols, were particularly bad for me when allowing "uncapped" uploads. Back then I would have been thrilled to have been able to achieve symmetry that matched my upload performance. I used m0n0wall to limit about 75% of my rate caps and had much better overall performance. My results varied, greatly, depending on the distance involved.
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Vumes @ 1st Jun 07:07PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by baineschile :
What markets do FiOS and Comcast overlap in? I am aware of a few places on the east coast (Virginia, NJ) are there any others in the midwest or west?
I am out on the West Coast near Portland, Oregon and I currently have Fios 20/5 and do know that Comcast offers Docsis 3.0 at my place as well.
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espaeth @ 1st Jun 07:16PM:
Re: Check out this thread
said by wentlanc :
A 250 gig cap can be achieved in a month using ~1mbps connection. So they are selling you 1/50th or 1/100th of what you are paying for.
There is a vast difference between burst rate and sustained rate, and usage isn't directly tied to rate.
Just because I can download a 600MB file faster at 50mbps doesn't mean I'm going to download it 30-40 more times than I would on a 1mbps connection.
The only scenario in which that becomes true is in P2P applications, which is why there has historically been a great deal of conflict between network planners and P2P developers.
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anon @ 1st Jun 08:10PM:
Re: who can even use that?
I can do all that with my high end dual core that easily runs at 4ghz.
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anon @ 1st Jun 08:06PM:
speed............. big deal
i got a Corvette but i cannot go over 50 miles an hour so whats the point like the other dude says price is to high keep your cap crap
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Birolo @ 1st Jun 08:24PM:
Re: 50/10
said by yesimanonymous :
How about you cut the price of your 50/10 tier in half :)
This sounds reasonable. Paying $ 62.00 for 22/5 today I would go for it if they lower the 50/10 and the 100/??? sometime. :)
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chronoss2009 @ 1st Jun 10:25PM:
100MEG wooo
ya big deal more speed with a cap only means yu get there quicker then twiddle your...longer, so i guess 1st thing to get is your pron.
kinda like shawcable offering it with a 200GB cap and then charging 300$ a month for it, when i can get a seed box server in france or UK for about 26$ Canadian .....
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patcat88 @ 1st Jun 10:25PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by espaeth :said by hbk4099 :
maybe you should read the cablevision forums with the people who have ultra and have been getting anywere from 92-120Mbp/s
Let's see how those stats look in 6 months when more than a handful of people in the entire OOL service area have Ultra subscriptions.
Yep, and there is a limit to splitting the nodes, at a certain point, it will be cheaper just to mount a gigabit ethernet switch on the pole and run fiber to your house than to give you a dedicated fiber node since what happens if 3 adjacent houses have 24/7 P2Pers?
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patcat88 @ 1st Jun 10:30PM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by digitalfreak :
Assume much? You have no idea what he's doing.
1.5TB download?
Either your running a home video editing business, or your just DDOSing someone.
(1500000/(5/8))/60/60/24=27 days a month worth of SDTV, sure your actually using what your downloading, only if your a robot with no sleep or bathroom needs
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fuziwuzi @ 1st Jun 11:22PM:
why not make what they already offer work reliably first?
I'd be happy if the 6/1 service they offer here would work reliably. They drop carrier more than an old dialup modem. And yes, they've sent out numerous technicians, my equipment is fine, they claim their equipment is fine, but not a day goes by that it doesn't drop carrier at least once, usually for just a few minutes, sometimes 10-15 minutes, but it will drop. This has been going on for almost a year now. And not just me, but everyone I've spoken to in my building has the same issue.
I'm just waiting for AT&T to finish the U-verse buildout in this neighborhood...
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anon @ 2nd Jun 12:46AM:
Re: FASTER
I remember the days of the 300 baud bbs's and ASCII Art, basic xl, and the atari 800. I thought I was hot s*** when I bought my Hayes 2400 baud modem for $800!
Of course all the isp's are offering different speed tiers (marketing), make twice the money in half the time, just offer higher and higher speeds as the technology gets cheaper.
The speed we can send and receive information has a direct impact on the speed at which technology advances. So bring on the bandwidth, caps will fall to the wayside sooner rather than later. I'll bet in 10 years most homes will have access to speeds approaching 1TB/sec. Remember 56K modems were the norm less than ten years ago.
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PGHammer @ 2nd Jun 01:36AM:
Re: Wow 100m!
said by 54903205 :said by baineschile :
What markets do FiOS and Comcast overlap in? I am aware of a few places on the east coast (Virginia, NJ) are there any others in the midwest or west?
Delaware.
Most of Maryland. *All* of Washington, DC. Most of Pennsylvania. (Comcast, in addition to being based in Philly, also is the dominant cable company in most of the non-rural parts of Pennsylvania.) Most of Virginia. (Verizon, not AT&T, is the majority ILEC in Virginia; not just in the Tidewater/Northern Neck region, which is ex-GTE territory, as most of the rest of the state is core Bell Atlantic (and before that, C&P Telephone).)
Further, for the record, while some of the area that Verizon is selling to Frontier Communications is the disconnected/rural portions of ex-GTE territory, some of it goes back to the beginning of Verizon, if not Bell Atlantic (West Virginia, for example, was part of the original C&P Telephone, a core component of Bell Atlantic). West Virginia and New England in particular have historically been among the most difficult in terms of M&R for linepersons (climatologically speaking); no wonder VZ wants to get rid of them.
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Ark @ 2nd Jun 01:42AM:
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»www.google.com/search?q=1%20Mb/s···GB/month
1Mb/s = 321 GB/month, so it would take ~24 days, but you could STILL hit a 250GB cap on that line.
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Tavokk @ 2nd Jun 06:46AM:
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NORTHERN Delaware.
Unfortunately I live in "Lower" Delaware.
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wentlanc @ 2nd Jun 08:33AM:
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said by espaeth :
Unless you're paying $500+/mo, you're not even starting to pay for dedicated 50mbps service.
You are absolutely right. Let's use your own numbers. If I'm paying $100 a month for 50Mbps service, then given that dedicated service is ~$500 a month (by your own numbers), then I'm paying for ~20% of dedicated service and only getting 1.5%.
said by espaeth :
That depends on if you understand what you are actually paying for. Not the crap the marketing departments are telling you, but what you are honestly paying for.
Again, you said it, I didn't. These companies are misleading consumers purposely to their own benefit. It's a shame that there is not more honesty in this world....
cw
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MareMare @ 2nd Jun 10:11AM:
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said by baineschile :
What markets do FiOS and Comcast overlap in? I am aware of a few places on the east coast (Virginia, NJ) are there any others in the midwest or west?
We've got that competitive combination coming here (maryland near DC) next month or early August, and that'll be the day comcast gets fired! :D
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espaeth @ 2nd Jun 11:23AM:
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said by wentlanc :said by espaeth :
Unless you're paying $500+/mo, you're not even starting to pay for dedicated 50mbps service.
You are absolutely right. Let's use your own numbers. If I'm paying $100 a month for 50Mbps service, then given that dedicated service is ~$500 a month (by your own numbers), then I'm paying for ~20% of dedicated service and only getting 1.5%.
You're getting a little closer, but $10/mbps pricing is usually on a GigE handoff within the confines of a carrier neutral meet-me facility. You have to factor in the access costs for getting that connection to your house, which drives the cost up a bit more.
There's also some additional for service features (McAfee subscriptions, email, etc), residential support, and profit.
said by wentlanc :said by espaeth :
That depends on if you understand what you are actually paying for. Not the crap the marketing departments are telling you, but what you are honestly paying for.
Again, you said it, I didn't. These companies are misleading consumers purposely to their own benefit. It's a shame that there is not more honesty in this world....
True, but that's not unique to the broadband industry. As the phrase goes, a fool and his money are soon parted. Buying broadband access without actually doing some research is like going to a used car dealer without any preparation.
Comcast's 250GB cap is a step in the right direction, although I'm sure most people won't acknowledge it as such. Unlike ISPs that promise the world with absolutely no possibility of delivering to every customer, at least some ISPs are disclosing limits on what reasonable expectations are for usage on shared infrastructure.
It would be awesome if it really could be unlimited, but sadly that's just not the case.
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Opticwonders @ 3rd Jun 07:31AM:
Yeah... and while you're at it...
Great, now bring the price down and lift the bandwidth caps and you can call me a customer....
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indy0365 @ 4th Jun 12:24AM:
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verizion is rolling out fios in ft wayne ind a mere 100 mi from toledo
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wentlanc @ 4th Jun 07:56AM:
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I'm paying for cable, which covers the cost of that infrastructure already. Nice try.
Who freaking cares if other industries do it? I despise them also. But we are here talking about broadband...
Let me be clear, I don't mind the idea of the cap. What I fear is the lack of a fair operational process to increase the cap as NORMAL usage increases. Who gets to define normal, and how often are issues that need to be well planned prior to implementing this plan. For nothing more than to ensure that these companies who now own the content, distribution, and general access are not permitted to create their own artificial moneypots that will hinder our technological development.
cw
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viper3431 @ 5th Jun 09:56AM:
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Legal or not, that's 50GB per day. That's a lot of data to be pushing every day of the month. I manage over 1000 machines and daily we average about 55GB total on a 45mbps circuit......
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viper3431 @ 5th Jun 09:59AM:
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said by BF69 :
You know that's against the TOS. You want to host get a BUSINESS account.
There you go again with the business account crap......to host a multiplayer game. Wow.
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