My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring.....

My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring.....
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asjamias @ 10th Mar 02:10PM:
My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring.....

I got 3 phone lines coming into the panel and a DSL line filtered already from the NID. All network, tv, phone connections are in there. Yes, I need some cleaning to do....

Levtion whole house surge suppressor was my choice after a lot of thinking....I wanted a local distributor where I can purchase it and if ever warrant it also...

bryank @ 10th Mar 05:37PM:
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Only thing I would have done differently is get a wall plate with snap in ports to create the coax/tel/ethernet lines in one wall plate. That would have eliminated the 3 single gang plates on the wall.
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tschmidt @ 10th Mar 08:50PM:
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The Leviton whole house surge suppressor is a good choice for power wiring. I like using secondary sure protection on phone/cable lines. If you have cable make sure it is also protected.

All conductors should be protected where they enter the building and bonded together with large gauge conductor. The idea is to minimize voltage difference between conductors during disturbances.

/Tom
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Edrick @ 10th Mar 11:44PM:
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They make some great products I was shocked to find out the amount they actually make. I have all their PDF's for their products. Since our whole school was done with Leviton systems. Including our lighting system in the theater. All of our rooms have occupancy sensors, structure control lighting in the theater where it's all done with touch buttons.
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asjamias @ 27th Mar 10:40PM:
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finally finished cleaning up the mess.....

seederjed @ 27th Mar 11:15PM:
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What is that copper or brass block in the top right of the box?
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Edrick @ 27th Mar 11:23PM:
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that's a cable splitter.
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Warzau @ 28th Mar 04:06AM:
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Ohh where did you get the mount for the D-Link...
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Dogwood @ 28th Mar 09:38AM:
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You have this wonderful, pretty set up, with CAT5 wire coming in and feeding the punch down block, even a separate CAT5 for the DSL line from the NID, but you use a crappy EMI prone flat phone cord to feed your DSL modem, and too much of it.
Make an RJ11 cable with some leftover CAT5.
Also, ground that coax grounding block.

Looks great otherwise.
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asjamias @ 28th Mar 11:28AM:
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said by Warzau :

Ohh where did you get the mount for the D-Link...

its from Leviton also...»www.smarthome.com/8651758.Html

said by Dogwood :

You have this wonderful, pretty set up, with CAT5 wire coming in and feeding the punch down block, even a separate CAT5 for the DSL line from the NID, but you use a crappy EMI prone flat phone cord to feed your DSL modem, and too much of it.Make an RJ11 cable with some leftover CAT5.
Also, ground that coax grounding block.

Looks great otherwise.

what do you mean by EMI prone? I was practicing my crimping techniques since its been awhile that I've done it and did not want to waste any cable. will make a better one when I get the chance. and the coax is grounded from the side wall of my house...
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JoelC707 @ 28th Mar 01:09PM:
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The flat cable likely came with the board you got (at least those flat cables were pre-installed on the ones I saw at Home Depot). The cables are prone to EMI because they are not twisted. The Cat-5 cable has the tip and ring of each pair twisted together to minimize interference. With voice it isn't that big of a deal but if your DSL is run through those flat cables it can have an effect on it.

Also, those jacks are 8P8C jacks and need an RJ-45 type connector not an RJ-11 connector. True if there are only 2-3 lines in the jack you could get away with an RJ-11 connector but you risk damaging the pins if it is an 8P8C jack (as opposed to an 8P6C or 8P4C).
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asjamias @ 28th Mar 01:27PM:
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said by JoelC707 :

Also, those jacks are 8P8C jacks and need an RJ-45 type connector not an RJ-11 connector. True if there are only 2-3 lines in the jack you could get away with an RJ-11 connector but you risk damaging the pins if it is an 8P8C jack (as opposed to an 8P6C or 8P4C).

the dsl modem is using the puny little gray cable on the right where one end is RJ11 going to modem and the other end is RJ45 which I crimped to go into the leviton module, the cable itself is a regular telephone cable which i salvaged from a bunch of wires lying around. the original red cable was set aside just in case i need to return everything to bellsouth when i terminate my service.
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whizkid3 @ 28th Mar 09:46PM:
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said by asjamias :

the dsl modem is using the puny little gray cable on the right where one end is RJ11 going to modem and the other end is RJ45 which I crimped to go into the leviton module, the cable itself is a regular telephone cable which i salvaged from a bunch of wires lying around. the original red cable was set aside just in case i need to return everything to bellsouth when i terminate my service.

JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long. If you don't want to the use cable that you got with the modem, get yourself a twisted pair (CAT3 minimum) cable at Home Depot, or where ever you bought the structured cabling gear.

As far as the grounding goes, the entire panel needs to be grounded. This will be accomplished, if your 120V receptacles in the bottom of the panel are in metalic boxes (which are grounded properly). If not, Leviton puts a green grounding screw at the bottom of the panel. A wire should be run from this screw back to the ground bus in your main circuit breaker panel. (We realize you have a grounding block at the cable TV entrance to the house, but this is also necessary.)

Other than these two minor items, it looks fantastic. Good job!
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asjamias @ 29th Mar 10:48AM:
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said by whizkid3 :

JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long. If you don't want to the use cable that you got with the modem, get yourself a twisted pair (CAT3 minimum) cable at Home Depot, or where ever you bought the structured cabling gear.

As far as the grounding goes, the entire panel needs to be grounded. This will be accomplished, if your 120V receptacles in the bottom of the panel are in metalic boxes (which are grounded properly). If not, Leviton puts a green grounding screw at the bottom of the panel. A wire should be run from this screw back to the ground bus in your main circuit breaker panel. (We realize you have a grounding block at the cable TV entrance to the house, but this is also necessary.)

Other than these two minor items, it looks fantastic. Good job!

thanks for the tips....i'll probably do that over the weekend. i'll need to check if the receptacles at the bottom are grounded or not so i can make revisions where need be.
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Splitpair @ 29th Mar 12:42PM:
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I wouldn't sweat the silver line cord too much if folks had any idea what the DSL signal goes through to get to a subscriber home they would realize a few feet of flat un-twisted cord ain't going to make a dang bit of difference.

I would recommend you do add a Ethernet surge suppressor between the DSL modem/router and your switch/hub .

Wayne
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Splitpair @ 29th Mar 12:52PM:
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said by whizkid3 :

JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long.

That is incorrect as we supply a standard flat type line cord with all of our ADSL modems the only CAT cables we supply are for the Ethernet connection.

FWIW the loss in that flat cord is little to nothing compared to what exists in the loop due to length splices and guage changes.

Wayne

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Ken @ 29th Mar 01:45PM:
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I really like the idea of the structured wiring panel, and I would like to do that at my house. I just have one question, is there anyway to add UPS backup into the panel?

We have somewhat frequent power outages that tend to last for 2-5 seconds on average. Just enough to cause my dsl modem to reboot, and then I have to wait for a minute or more to get back online. I currently have my modem and router on a UPS, and I would hate to go back to no UPS. I wouldn't need very much battery capacity, as those two things don't draw much power.
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MrFixitSC @ 29th Mar 01:53PM:
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said by Splitpair :

FWIW the loss in that flat cord is little to nothing compared to what exists in the loop due to length splices and guage changes.

Wayne

that's a fact! not to mention thru birds nests, over squirrel bite marks and beehives..
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asjamias @ 29th Mar 02:55PM:
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said by Splitpair :

I would recommend you do add a Ethernet surge suppressor between the DSL modem/router and your switch/hub .

Wayne

The power receptacles which both modem and switch plug into have surge suppressors built in surge suppressor > »www.levitonproducts.com/catalog/···pid=1208

said by Ken :

I really like the idea of the structured wiring panel, and I would like to do that at my house. I just have one question, is there anyway to add UPS backup into the panel?

another member here has this »The Network Enclosure

he's got an APC UPS hooked up to his panel....

what I was planning, was to put UPS' on each computer instead as the cost to that big one is almost equal to 3 to 4 smaller units. what matters most to me is the data inside my laptops and desktops. those hardware if they fry [knock on wood] should be covered with homeowners insurance.
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Warzau @ 29th Mar 03:57PM:
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I think he means the actuall ethernet not the power.

first hit in google »www.sealevel.com/product_detail.···pressor_
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Splitpair @ 29th Mar 05:18PM:
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said by asjamias :

The power receptacles which both modem and switch plug into have surge suppressors built in surge suppressor >

Yup and the protectors that are on your DSL line don't even kick in until the voltage hits there 350-400 volts T/R T/G R/G. So as I posted you should add an Ethernet supressor between the modem and your switch. Trust me it's money well spent.

Wayne
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asjamias @ 29th Mar 07:13PM:
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would a tripp lite ethernet surge work? »www.tripplite.com/products/produ···ctID=151 looks like it can easily fit in there...
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Splitpair @ 30th Mar 07:57AM:
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said by asjamias :

would a tripp lite ethernet surge work? »www.tripplite.com/products/produ···ctID=151 looks like it can easily fit in there...

With a 7 volt breakdown IMO that is the correct way to go just be sure it is grounded well. We (BST) have been using the ONEAC model which internally is the same basic design and they have greatly reduced signal level (3-5 volts Ethernet DS1) damage at cell sites which are lightning magnets. Needless to say after seening that I added (out of my pocket not BST's parts) the same protection at home to my Ethernet over fiber broadband connections.

Wayne
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Fr0zen @ 6th Apr 03:03PM:
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I have a similar setup. Except I have a cable modem and a Linksys RV082 router. I have both the cable modem and RV082 hooked up to a UPS. Where would I put one of those ethernet supressors - and what do they exactly do? Protect from nearby lightning strikes and voltage spikes/decreases?
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