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PX Eliezer @ 22nd Oct 08:41PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by dragonartist :

Look at it this way though, at least you got to keep your phone number. If PP didn't pick you up, you could have lost your phone number completely.
This is a good point. At least no one had to try to do an emergency port.
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neftv @ 22nd Oct 08:44PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

True!
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ErikRP @ 22nd Oct 09:51PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by Creekster :

Bottom line - Neither Broadvox or Phone Power are innocent. They both were/are willing participants in this underhanded way of doing business. I have had communications with both companies and all we represent are pieces of meat. Nothing more. As I heard one of Obama's Czars put it in a news clip today on TV - "You want a friend . . . Get a Dog."
What exactly is Phone Power doing that's underhanded? I think that's a pretty unfair comment to make.
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anon @ 23rd Oct 11:26AM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

Unfair!!!

Based on the communications I have had with Phone Power they knew far in advance of the Thursday night at 9PM that they called my CELL phone that I was going to have my phone cutoff on Monday morning. They verbally "said" they were keeping my phone cost plan the same, but upon further questioning that was not true and when pushed they wouldn't back it up in writing.

They sure had plenty of information on me that was not public knowledge to be able to call my Cell Phone. And NO my home phone was not forwarded.

Any other Utility Type company that has acquired my account/business has honored the plan I have been on without signing a new contract as long as I didn't make changes to the plan. It was that way all the way through on my Cell from Bellsouth Mobility to Cingular to AT&T to Suncom to T-Mobile. I made one change in plans during that 11 year period from Cingular to AT&T which became Suncom and is now T-Mobile. All these companies have honored my price plans through the years.

Phone Power came down to the point in the conversations that the only way they would honor my total cost was through a 2 year commitment or that large prepaid plan. In my 17 years on the Internet you know how these companies come and go. The last one I participated with about ten years ago where you prepaid for a year of service up front disappeared. Phone Power got all my history from Broadvox as evident by them having my Cell number and Credit Card information. They know I was a long time excellent paying customer and yet for me to keep the Total Cost I have had, they want to bust me for a 2 year commitment. Who has been around longer in VOIP me or them. ME!!! Who is more likely to continue being around using VOIP phone service - ME! They could endup just like the other Fly-By-Nights. VOiP.net is gone. Broadvox is headed wherever they are headed and Phone Power is not all that old that they should be expecting to put a rope around my neck when nobody is holding there feet to the fire if they don't live up to there end of the bargain.

As for this junk about being lucky about my phone number not being lost. We Americans are being asked to put up with a lot of BS that would never have been stood for in the past. Many things in this country have not improved and are getting worse. This is not to say I don't love our country, but there are those out there trying to push Un-American things down our throats. It is just down right disrespectful.
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ErikRP @ 23rd Oct 03:35PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by Creekster :

Unfair!!!

Based on the communications I have had with Phone Power they knew far in advance of the Thursday night at 9PM that they called my CELL phone that I was going to have my phone cutoff on Monday morning. They verbally "said" they were keeping my phone cost plan the same, but upon further questioning that was not true and when pushed they wouldn't back it up in writing.
I'm surprised they called you. Most of the rest of us got an email, so I'm guessing they tried to email but it didn't work and they called whatever contact number Broadvox had on file.

The price is the same. If taxes and fees make the end total different, there isn't much they can do. True, they could adjust their total so that the taxes and fees, but they are under no obligation to do so.

said by Creekster :

They sure had plenty of information on me that was not public knowledge to be able to call my Cell Phone. And NO my home phone was not forwarded.
They got the information from Broadvox. I bet if you check your Broadvox portal your cell phone number appears there.

said by Creekster :

Any other Utility Type company that has acquired my account/business has honored the plan I have been on without signing a new contract as long as I didn't make changes to the plan. It was that way all the way through on my Cell from Bellsouth Mobility to Cingular to AT&T to Suncom to T-Mobile. I made one change in plans during that 11 year period from Cingular to AT&T which became Suncom and is now T-Mobile. All these companies have honored my price plans through the years.
Again, the price plan is different than the total cost. In my case with Broadvox we were charged $19.95 a month. That was it - no fees, no taxes, nothing more. Phone Power is charging me $19.95, and apparently plus fees and taxes (haven't seen a total). So PP are honoring their commitment to charge me what Broadvox charged, but if they have to pay fees and taxes it's not like PP is pocketing the money.

said by Creekster :

Phone Power came down to the point in the conversations that the only way they would honor my total cost was through a 2 year commitment or that large prepaid plan. In my 17 years on the Internet you know how these companies come and go. The last one I participated with about ten years ago where you prepaid for a year of service up front disappeared. Phone Power got all my history from Broadvox as evident by them having my Cell number and Credit Card information. They know I was a long time excellent paying customer and yet for me to keep the Total Cost I have had, they want to bust me for a 2 year commitment. Who has been around longer in VOIP me or them. ME!!! Who is more likely to continue being around using VOIP phone service - ME! They could endup just like the other Fly-By-Nights. VOiP.net is gone. Broadvox is headed wherever they are headed and Phone Power is not all that old that they should be expecting to put a rope around my neck when nobody is holding there feet to the fire if they don't live up to there end of the bargain.
Hard to find any one point in that paragraph, so I'll just say that you have the choice to commit to two years (really only one year, the second year is more or less free). If you think Phone Power is going to sink, just leave and save yourself the worry. If you leave now you will be out maybe a couple of bucks more than if Broadvox was still giving you your dial tone.

Which leads to...

said by Creekster :

As for this junk about being lucky about my phone number not being lost. We Americans are being asked to put up with a lot of BS that would never have been stood for in the past. Many things in this country have not improved and are getting worse. This is not to say I don't love our country, but there are those out there trying to push Un-American things down our throats. It is just down right disrespectful.
OMG. I'm not sure which makes me gag more - people droning on about how "things in this country" are going to hell in a handbasket, or the phrase "un-American".

Since you are such a pioneer of all things technical, let me remind you of how "great" things used to be. Remember when Ma Bell, aka AT&T, was the only game in town. Remember when long distance between states - let alone to other countries - was priced per minute. There was no other game in town, and you certainly weren't going to be calling anyone on your 28.8K modem.

Give your head a shake. Sure, there are lousy companies out there; there always have been and there always will be. But you can browse this forum and see literally a dozen or more alternatives to Phone Power, and each one - including Phone Power - is a cheaper alternative to a deregulated land-line service, or a wireless plan.

Never in the history of Western civilization has there been more choice, more opportunity, more convenience, and more availability. How much did the computer you're using cost you? I can almost guarantee you can buy it or a better model cheaper today.

The people who say about how good life used to be either didn't live that life, or are afraid to look around and see the positives in today's life.

(Oh, and as for that phrase "un-American", I am all for love of country, but whenever I hear that phrase it makes my skin crawl. Far too many abuses in history were justified by use of that phrase. But that's drifting far enough off topic for me...)

said by Creekster :

Unfair!!!
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it unfair. And it certainly doesn't give you the right to go around accusing a company of being "underhanded".

You're not on a contract - leave if you don't like Phone Power. If leaving over a couple of dollars is worth your hassle, by all means find another VoIP. Something tells me you wouldn't be happy with anything PP does anyway.
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PX Eliezer @ 23rd Oct 07:14PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by ErikRP :


(Oh, and as for that phrase "un-American", I am all for love of country, but whenever I hear that phrase it makes my skin crawl. Far too many abuses in history were justified by use of that phrase. But that's drifting far enough off topic for me...)
After a few hours it hit me that you're from Manitoba.

Curious, does anybody use the phrase "un-Canadian" ?? :)

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Of course, all societies and countries have their historical abuses.

»www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/conf···0-e.html
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ErikRP @ 23rd Oct 07:29PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

I hope it didn't sound like I was picking on the U.S.; I certainly wouldn't suggest for a moment that America is either alone, or even the worst offender, when it comes to abuses past or present.

To answer your question, I don't think I have ever in my life heard the phrase "un-Canadian".

Have we got that adapter unlocked yet?? ;)
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PX Eliezer @ 23rd Oct 08:57PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by ErikRP :

I hope it didn't sound like I was picking on the U.S....
No, not at all. It just struck me as interesting with what "un-Canadian" would represent.

I used to live in Detroit and enjoyed watching the CBC and traveling south to visit Canada.

And although many US east coast residents are unfortunately quite ignorant as to Manitoba, I have always been interested in Louis Riel. Strangely enough, a Kansas City law school hosts much material on his treason trial.
»www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project···iel.html

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Back on topic, I doubt that that adapter will ever be unlocked. Kind of like an enigma, to make a pun. But at least we can all learn other stuff from each other even if the adapter penetration fails.
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petargreat @ 24th Oct 11:03AM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

One company does not automatically means a Monopoly as it is perceived. If that is true then legal part is not developed appropriately. For me it looks like an oligopoly where it looks like that you have a choice but on ether end you end up the same or even worse because one company will always point to another one.

Since it is only 'proven' model on today's world, lets all enjoy. :)

p.s. Forget this post it is just my personal opinion :)
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anon @ 24th Oct 12:36PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

Erik - You were the one asking what was "Unfair." If you didn't want me to reply, Why Ask The Question!

For the moment we have the right to express our own opinions. You have yours and I have mine.

As for being "Happy" - If you listened you would have realized I had been very happy with Broadvox and had no problems with the company until now. The last time prior to now we had the need to communicate was 2007 - so I am not the problem. I am a very loyal customer when loyalty has been earned.

YES, I am picky - and I treat my own customers with the same respect I expect. That is why they have remained my customers for years.

YES, I am shopping around for another VOIP company. Since you mention it. Phone Power had my email address as well along with all the rest of my so called vital statistics THAT I DID NOT GIVE TO THEM. I have reviewed all the authorizations I signed when I became a customer of Broadvox and there was nothing in the agreements about being able to forward or assign my personal information to another company. It is not a matter I am interested in pursuing unless there negligence were to cause me a problem with, "identity theft."

YES, I have lived through some of the neatest of times in this world and you don't realize what you have lost many times until you can't get it back. Technically - we can do a lot more, but are we always better off from it. A very broad subject and way off track for this conversation, but history will ultimately be the judge.

You seem so concerned about Phone Powers reputation you must have a vested interest in the company.
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PX Eliezer @ 24th Oct 01:43PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

said by Creekster :

You seem so concerned about Phone Powers reputation you must have a vested interest in the company.
There's really no need for that. :(

In fact, when you go there, you have lost.

ErikRP is expressing his opinion just as you wish to express yours.

IIRC he has previously said that he had his service transferred, same as you.

I would also point out that he's been a registered member on this website for five (5) years, long before PhonePower existed. So it is unlikely in the extreme that he has any PP connections except as a (new) customer.

Similarly, he indicates that he is from Manitoba, hardly relevant to PhonePower. He has often posted on Canadian topics relating to companies such as Rogers.

While I cannot prove that he is from Manitoba, it IS clear that he's been posting for 5 years.....
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ErikRP @ 25th Oct 09:22PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

Again, you seem to confuse accusing with discussing.

Not that it is any of your business, or would in any way change the value of my comments, but my only connection to Phone Power began about a month ago when I got an email saying my service would be switched over to Phone Power. A quick check of my posts here on the site will confirm this. I have zero affiliation with them beyond that.

I have no problem with you being a picky customer. So am I; my posts in this forum and others on DSLReports will confirm that. I have absolutely no problem holding a company to its responsibility to provide me with the service for which I have paid. And yes, when I am let down by a company I will let everyone know about it.

I fully agree you have the right to express your own opinion. I didn't involve myself in what you were saying until you made the following comment: "Bottom line - Neither Broadvox or Phone Power are innocent. They both were/are willing participants in this underhanded way of doing business." I called your comment unfair, which it was, for the reasons I wrote earlier.

Unless Phone Power is using your personal information for something other than billing you for the service you receive, I doubt there are too many courts that would side with you. So while it might bother you, there is nothing illegal or improper with what Broadvox did.
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PX Eliezer @ 25th Oct 09:26PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

I'll say, this, too:

The transition from BroadvoxDirect to PhonePower was done FAR, FAR better than the transition from SunRocket to TeleBlend!
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anon @ 26th Oct 12:20PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

Just as PX Eliezer pointed out that Erik deserves respect for contributing to this forum for 5 years, the companies we do business with need to respect "US" the customers that choose to do business with them. As I said I was a long time customer of Broadvox for 5 years, Phone Power doesn't need to treat us like something that just crawled in off the street. There silence to questions or dancing around questions is just that.

As for if some law has been broken by the transaction made between Broadvox and Phone Power - I am not a U.S. Attorney and I would not waste yours or my time trying to argue that point here. In my personal opinion, doing business that way is a, "Breach of Trust." In this day and time with "Identity Theft" on the rise that is information that we all need to protect. That is evident here since we had no control over our information being transmitted over to Phone Power without our consent. Identity Theft it is not just a question of will it happen, but when will it happen. It is just a matter of time if you are active in commerce.

Lastly on Price, which was my second concern with the way Phone Power has handled this group of customers coming from Broadvox. I can afford the increased cost going to Phone Power, but look at it this way and I will sit on the sidelines and watch for a while. In July of 2008 I purchased a Magic Jack for a trip to Australia. It worked so well that a friend of mine purchased one and sent it to his family in Russia. This past Spring a major U.S. retailer I know purchased 40 of them for there overseas buyers to call back to the states with. As I am sure everyone here knows the Magic Jack is $20 a year verses the $240 I was spending with Broadvox. Yes, there are differences in the product/service but not $220 worth. My Cell service since 1998 has been consistently dropping in price. VOIP service is too.

When I entered into this conversation I was looking to see if anyone had successfully Unlocked this Mediatrix 2102. I don't need to Unlock It. I am just interested in sort of a hobby way.
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anon @ 3rd Nov 09:27PM:
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Back on topic: Has ANYONE figured out how to unlock these damn things? I have three of them sitting in my closet!
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neftv @ 3rd Nov 09:48PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

If pages 20-24 didn't help you from the PDF I posted way above here, then I guess the device is hard-coded and it can't be done.
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fortissimo @ 6th Nov 08:03AM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

the thread gone totally OP. Thread is about Mediatrix 2102, and its possibility of unlocking. The thread is not about voip.net nor Broadvox Direct (which I have a lot to say about as a former customer myself).

I have a broken (likely blown component inside) and a good one here.
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ozma @ 16th Nov 07:25PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

I sent an email to Mediatrix because I also have a Broadvox Mediatrix 2102 that I'd like to unlock.

I did get an email back. Unfortunately, they want to charge an entire support hour ($150) to unlock the box, which is ridiculous considering I could get a new unit for a lot less than that.

He told me they were unable to give me specific instructions, except I could upload a new configuration file. He also said I could get in via SNMPv3 but I have been unable to do that.

He gave me a configuration file template. I have not modified it other than to try to put the MAC address as the name and "cfg" as the extention. Whenever I try to upload it via the admin interface, it hangs.

Attached is the config file template. I hope that someone can help get this figured out. It seems a shame we have all these boxes destined for a landfill otherwise.

Thank you.
Template-Wit···.xml.zip 7,757 bytes
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plusminus @ 16th Nov 08:59PM:
Re: [unlock] voip.net Mediatrix 2102

Resumes:
1. About unlock
This is not too easy to do this. I think, we just have lot of electronic junk, no more. Pay $150 for unlock old 2102?
This is not serious. Lets I buy new unlocked Linksys PAP2
on e-bay for ~$30.

2. About transfer from PhonePower.
I read answers from both companies, both looks innocent.
I remember phrase "one have clean hands, another have
clean conscience". Everyone is innocent, but I got suddenly
service disconnect at Friday evening. I had just 2 options:
a) Live whole weekends without phone
b) In 10 minutes, configure GoogleVoice+IpKall+CallCentric,
and activate new and cheaper phone.
Extra 20 minutes -- to write broadcast e-mail and notify
all my parties about number change.

I selected (b). Phone works, I pay much less than $14/mo
and without taxes.
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