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Oleg @ 23rd Oct 12:51PM:
Tier 1 tech support
When you call Digital group they got nasty attitude like "Where did you get this number?!!"
What's wrong with them?
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graysonf @ 23rd Oct 01:12PM:
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There is nothing wrong with them. You are the problem because as an end user, you are not supposed to be talking to them directly. Your ISP's support people are supposed to escalate problems to them.
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Oleg @ 23rd Oct 01:29PM:
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Thanks graysonf for an answer,but as you know it could be a headache talking to level 2 tech support,because some people know a lot about tech stuff so this is why it would be easier to skip the line ;)
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RJ44 @ 23rd Oct 01:32PM:
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They don't want people skipping the line.
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graysonf @ 23rd Oct 01:32PM:
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OK, let's try it this way.
If and when you become an ATT partner ISP, then and only then can you talk to the DSG.
Hope that clears it up for you.
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Mizzat @ 23rd Oct 04:37PM:
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said by Oleg :
Thanks graysonf for an answer,but as you know it could be a headache talking to level 2 tech support,because some people know a lot about tech stuff so this is why it would be easier to skip the line ;)
What makes you an expert and special to skip ahead of other issues. That line is for higher risk, internal, and escalations. Is your WoW playing really that much of a priority? Seems rude to me.
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Claybraker @ 23rd Oct 11:42PM:
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said by Oleg :
When you call Digital group they got nasty attitude
Yep, I've noticed it too. It's gotten so bad I don't call them unless I absolutely have to. I'm not real happy about the hold times either.
I'd suggest we all stop calling them. When the call volume drops off enough that the PHB's start looking at trimming headcount, they'll change their attitude.
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anon @ 24th Oct 10:22AM:
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said by Claybraker :
Yep, I've noticed it too. It's gotten so bad I don't call them unless I absolutely have to. I'm not real happy about the hold times either.
I'd suggest we all stop calling them. When the call volume drops off enough that the PHB's start looking at trimming headcount, they'll change their attitude.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS RESOURCE!! What about this concept is not making it through to you and the others? This is strictly an internal resource and it ALWAYS has been. Yes, the phone number has leaked around in the past but it does not give you, or others, the right to think it's your personal tech support. The DSG is NOT tech support.
I also find it funny that the the OP titles his thread "Tier 1 tech support" and then proceeds to complain about the DSG. And in his second post he refers to "level 2 tech support" as if they are the front line. Quick lesson: level 1 = front line script readers...level 2 = more qualified personnel. It's not the other way around,..you are not jumping over tier 2 to get to tier 1.
I think this is most of the problem. People are mistaking the DSG as their direct line customer support. Like graysonf, rj44, and mizzat have already stated....this resource is not intended to be used by the customers.
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ndt @ 24th Oct 11:00AM:
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Correct.The DSG is for use by Techs only.
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Oleg @ 24th Oct 11:51AM:
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Sure i am a tech i can read script :mad:
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asjamias @ 24th Oct 12:52PM:
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it's like one those people calling 911 for a complaint against a hamburger missing something....
next time you cry wolf....nobody will support you anymore...
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anon @ 24th Oct 05:02PM:
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said by Oleg :
Sure i am a tech i can read script :mad:
Please elaborate,...I don't understand what you mean.
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Oleg @ 24th Oct 06:06PM:
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said by saturdayaft :said by Oleg :
Sure i am a tech i can read script :mad:
Please elaborate,...I don't understand what you mean.
What i mean is so called at&t people are just flowing the script it's like reading a manual that tells you want to do.
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ndt @ 24th Oct 06:19PM:
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Evidently you've never dealt with real Telco Technicians.The ones who actually do the work.
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Mizzat @ 24th Oct 06:19PM:
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said by Oleg :said by saturdayaft :said by Oleg :
Sure i am a tech i can read script :mad:
Please elaborate,...I don't understand what you mean.
What i mean is so called at&t people are just flowing the script it's like reading a manual that tells you want to do.
Yea, and I used to do small business telecom consulting and am a technical consultant, but one time I couldn't get my DSL working and they scripted me, I followed, and it worked. Sometimes even knowledgeable people forget the small basic things....
Also, you forget, since you hang out on this site you're already more knowledgeable than most people out there. I'm amazed daily how little most people know about telecom. I had a guy ask me yesterday that since he has 5 static IPs on his T1, does that mean he can hook a router up to each IP and have 5x the speed on the T1....amazing for a guy pay $500+ for a data circuit....
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NetFixer @ 24th Oct 08:46PM:
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said by Oleg :
so called at&t people
Hmmm, is the implication here that at&t tier 1 CSRs are not really people, or that they are not really at&t employees?
Just because they may be outsourced/offshore contract employees is no reason to insult them as a class.
And BTW, you are putting the statutory at&t DSG employees at risk of becoming "non at&t people" by calling them directly, since they are not supposed to work on a problem without having an official trouble ticket open. AT&T is the model company for the Dilbert cartoons, and doing something not authorized by the company is a pretty good way to become a former employee.
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Lest you think that the preceding Dilbert storyline is just a comic strip, let me assure you that I have on numerous occasions been given similar instruction by more than one Pointy Hair Boss (and some of them did indeed work for telephone companies).
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Splitpair @ 25th Oct 06:44AM:
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said by Oleg :
Thanks graysonf for an answer, but as you know it could be a headache talking to level 2 tech support and because some people think they know a lot about tech stuff and are so important they should be able to cut into the line ;)
There, I fixed it for ya.
Wayne
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Oleg @ 25th Oct 07:27PM:
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said by Splitpair :said by Oleg :
Thanks graysonf for an answer, but as you know it could be a headache talking to level 2 tech support and because some people think they know a lot about tech stuff and are so important they should be able to cut into the line ;)
There, I fixed it for ya.
Wayne
Thanks.
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Claybraker @ 25th Oct 09:41PM:
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said by NetFixer :
Lest you think that the preceding Dilbert storyline is just a comic strip, let me assure you that I have on numerous occasions been given similar instruction by more than one Pointy Hair Boss (and some of them did indeed work for telephone companies).
+1 for picking up the PHB reference.
I've got a particularly nasty attitude myself after wasting several hours on a U-verse circuit yesterday.
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asjamias @ 28th Oct 01:34PM:
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are you sure you're not using a Zoom Modem like the one you were suggesting for a friend?
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anon @ 30th Oct 05:00PM:
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I'm hoping someone has some bright ideas about how I can get some resolution out of AT&T ....
I set up new DSL service with AT&T on Sept.23rd (I'm in Coconut Grove, Miami). Worked BEAUTIFULLY until Oct. 10th, when the landline went dead and I lost DSL. A POTS technician restored the landline on Oct.11th, but still no DSL. I've only managed to get DSL for two days since then.
I've had 5 techs come out. I've had the modem changed out 3 times. 3 of the techs (independent contractors) have told me they can't get sync either inside my house or outside at the NID, that this is a problem somewhere on the line/loop between my house and the CO.
Despite all this, I can't get AT&T to check the line, or resolve anything. They're giving me the run around, and keep sending techs to check my modem and the signal inside the house. Then the techs raise tickets because there's no sync at the NID .... and then nothing happens. This last time they say it's because the ticket was raised in the wrong system, and they need DSG to do it.
Who can I call? I'm going CRAZY here, and I'm about to cancel. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Splitpair @ 30th Oct 05:32PM:
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said by ECH :
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Post a message here »/forum/sbcdirect
Wayne
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Airwolf7 @ 31st Oct 12:23AM:
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said by ECH :
Who can I call? I'm going CRAZY here, and I'm about to cancel. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Comcast.
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ycool @ 31st Oct 01:39AM:
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if you are still having an issue pm me your dsl#
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Tier2 @ 8th Nov 03:59PM:
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Third party contractors in Florida and in Georgia as what AT&T called them as "ecocomp" could not guarantee you to solve no sync issues thus when you call techsupport you need to tell them that you dont need "ecocomp" but you need a "BST" tech which stands for Bellsouth Technicians or now they call it AT&T Technicians. Dont be confused BST & AT&T technicians are similar. Now if your in FL or Georgia with no ADSL, ask for BST and can resolve your problem!
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ECH @ 9th Nov 10:39AM:
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Thank you! You were absolutely right, in the end it was BST who solved the problem. It took them two or three visits, but at least from the get-go they knew it was an AT&T line problem and not something happening with my modem/wiring. In the end a BST tech went to the cross box - said everything was reading fine at the cross box but switched me to a different line to see if that would work, and BINGO!! We've had wonderful, uninterrupted DSL since (now over a week).
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Tier2 @ 12th Nov 11:48PM:
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Welcome buddy!
Thats so great to hear from you! So when you call tech support did you ask for "BST" tech? Were not they surprised? lol :D I guess you did asked for it! Amazing and enjoy the service..... :p :p :p
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ECH @ 13th Nov 07:40AM:
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I did have to ask for it :) I flipped out at some poor guy at the Tier 1 call center, which I felt bad about but I wasn't getting anywhere any other way. He ended up being very helpful, and managed to finally get me a BST tech! I did have to submit to spending a lot of time on hold on the phone, but really that was the least of my problems. So I'm sorry to say that losing my rag was the final solution; but I had spent nearly a month trying every other route :(
I must say though, this forum is AMAZING! What an excellent resource - a huge help!
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