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obannvi @ 4th Nov 01:10PM:
[Connectivity] What wireless router to use with Extreme 50? Help
So Comcast suggests the WNR3500 for the extreme 50 service. Ive got that router and when im on wireless I barely get 15 down. When im connected directly to the router I get 45-50 down. Am I doing something wrong here? Are there any other settings I need for the router? Ive searched everywhere on here, but there doesnt seem to be any clear answers...please help.
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gar187er @ 4th Nov 03:16PM:
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you will never see max throughput over the air...
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EG @ 4th Nov 01:43PM:
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Have you ever tried a different wireless channel in the router ? Is the wireless signal strength good ? Is the adapter far away from the router ? Are there many walls, ceilings, or obstructions in between ? Is it a steel building ? Is the wireless adapter in your computer an "N" capable one ? Are there any wireless devices/telephones that are 2.4Ghz in your home ?
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anon @ 4th Nov 03:17PM:
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You're probably not doing anything wrong. Wireless just sucks.
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 01:49PM:
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At first it was set to 6,10 and then I moved it too 7,11. On the router itself it gives me options to choose. One is up to 54, up to 145 and up to 300. I chose the up to 300 option and it only allows me to choose multiple channels. For instance, 6,10 7,11 etc etc. The wireless signal was really good. My laptop does have an N card in it. no other wireless devices other than cell phones.
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EG @ 4th Nov 01:56PM:
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Hmmm.. That's strange. You should be getting better performance than that. Does it have the latest firmware available for it from the manufacturer ?
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 01:58PM:
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When I logged into the router it said it was up to date. I even called Comcast and they said the WNR3500 is what they use. I may as well keep my WRT54G router hooked up because im getting the same speeds...LOL I dont understand what could be the problem. I figured a wireless N router would do the trick, according to Comcast.
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gar187er @ 4th Nov 03:17PM:
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fluorescent lights perhaps?
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lorennerol @ 4th Nov 02:07PM:
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Do you have an 11n wireless card in your laptop?
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EG @ 4th Nov 02:08PM:
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How 'bout the latest driver for the wireless adapter ? Maybe there's a problem with the adapter..
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EG @ 4th Nov 02:08PM:
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said by lorennerol :
Do you have an 11n wireless card in your laptop?
Poster just said that they do..
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 02:12PM:
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i'll have to check the driver when I get home, but I believe Dell hasnt even updated since Jan. lol When I checked Netgear's website for the firmware I saw two different versions. I'll have to try the other version...
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 03:47PM:
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But, to see a decrease from 50 down to 15 down is unheard of...
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iansltx @ 4th Nov 03:57PM:
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When I had 50/10 my Linksys WRT310N with DD-WRT could hit about 40Mbps reliably, after some fiddling. Was able to get it up to 55 at times on downloads.
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 03:58PM:
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Was that wirelessly?
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iansltx @ 4th Nov 04:09PM:
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Yes. Wired, I got 60/20 or so on the speedtest, same as if I hooked directly into the modem.
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B_Top @ 4th Nov 04:15PM:
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I am running my Comcast Extreme Tier thru a Dlink DIR 655 draft N router and these are the speeds I am getting
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 04:33PM:
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B-Top, is that wireless or wired? I get constant 45-50 down when wired.
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hata28 @ 4th Nov 05:14PM:
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I just got the Netgear WNDR3700 and my speed seems to be faster esp. loading of web pages....and upload speed has increased.
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 05:36PM:
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Is that wireless or wired? Im looking for wireless speeds here...
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EG @ 4th Nov 06:49PM:
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said by gar187er :
you will never see max throughput over the air...
No but he's getting no where near what he should be..
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 06:50PM:
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You know, I have a Wireless N USB adapter I had bought for my desktop (that is now fried) :mad: LOL That I should try...hmmmmm
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EG @ 4th Nov 06:50PM:
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said by Prant :
Wireless just sucks.
That's your opinion. I get Powerboost bursts to 35 Mbps on a wireless connection...
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 06:52PM:
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See, when I read that it makes me even more mad that I should be getting at least that. :mad: LOL
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B_Top @ 4th Nov 08:13PM:
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wireless
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obannvi @ 4th Nov 08:52PM:
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How are you getting those speeds through wireless? What kind of config are you doing on your router?
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obannvi @ 5th Nov 11:35AM:
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So I tried different channels on my router last night...still no difference. :( Still only getting 15 down when on wireless. When on wired I was pulling in 52 down constantly.
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DarkLogix @ 5th Nov 11:57AM:
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do you have 2 computers?
if so you could try sending files from one to the other
have one connected wired the other wireless
also what OS?
XP, CrapstaVista, 7, linux, ect
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obannvi @ 5th Nov 12:00PM:
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nope, just my laptop. My desktop decided it wanted to stop working...
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hata28 @ 5th Nov 03:07PM:
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this is the wireless connection from my Asus Eee Netbook, wireless g only with the Netgear WNDR 3700
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EG @ 5th Nov 03:21PM:
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said by hata28 : this is the wireless connection from my Asus Eee Netbook, wireless g only with the Netgear WNDR 3700
Which speedtier are you on ?
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hata28 @ 5th Nov 03:24PM:
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Extreme 50/10
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jus10 @ 5th Nov 03:31PM:
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I've found for a real speed bump with the 3700, you need to be on the 5Ghz band. Then again, I live in apartments surrounded by an ultra-crowded 2.4GHz spectrum (142 access points visible to kismet. Only 1 in 5Ghz which is mine).
Up to 54 is g only, up to 145 is g/n and up to 300 is n only. My 2.4ghz AP is set to 145; the 5ghz to 300. The Macbook flies and the iphone still connects at g speed. Of course if your laptopbook doesn't work in the 5ghz band it is kinda moot.
I only got DS3 last Monday so I image I'm still limited to 16/2 at the cable modem but using iperf, can easily push 50-60 Mbs from laptop to laptop over wireless.
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hata28 @ 5th Nov 03:41PM:
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talking about the 3700 I find that the Traffic meter is not that accurate, which is the main reason I upgrade to this router from TrendNET TEW 633 GR which work fine for about 2 years. And the wireless signal seems to be not as good as the TrendNET. My wireless g network cam keep dropping connections.
I am trying to configure the TrendNET to work as a repeater, but it keep me problems when trying to change the DHCP to the same as Netgear. It fail to connect.
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obannvi @ 6th Nov 12:09PM:
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So I found my "other" wireless USB stick and I tried it. For a brief moment I was pulling in 30 down on wireless. This was set on up to 145Mb and auto channel. I tried a few more times and it dropped down too 13 down. The moment I plugged in the ethernet I was getting 52 down. This is very frustrating because it defeats the purpose of wireless and defeats the purpose of having the 50/10 Extreme package.
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PerfectCode @ 6th Nov 10:08PM:
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Here's what I have been getting today with my Extreme 50. (wired)
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iansltx @ 7th Nov 03:45AM:
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Direct to modem? Wow that sucks. Guess your connection decided to party like it's 1999...
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raffy616 @ 7th Nov 06:17AM:
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D3 Ultra. For me, this is the difference...
WiFi
Direct CAT-5 cable
I have an Apple Airport Extreme.
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PerfectCode @ 7th Nov 06:32PM:
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Nice pingtest improvement over yesterdays.
Today:
Yesterday:
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Mike Wolf @ 8th Nov 04:41AM:
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You absolutely will want to use an N router with gigibit wan (internet) port. If you want I can send you the link to a modem I've tested with your exact service for this exact purpose and had amazing results.
Also the others are correct in you requiring an N adapter on your wireless devices (unless built in) if you want to see the best performance.
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PerfectCode @ 8th Nov 07:26PM:
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said by raffy616 :D3 Ultra. For me, this is the difference...
WiFi
Direct CAT-5 cable
I have an Apple Airport Extreme.
Yeah umm... that is just ridiculous and completely unfair. I am jealous.
PS: What modem are you using? The standard SB6120?
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raffy616 @ 8th Nov 09:07PM:
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Cisco.
I used to have the Ambit when they haven't capped it. After about 2 months, they've capped it and I was never going above 30Mbps on every speedtest I did. I decided to just try the Cisco and there you go. I only have ultra but the powerboost is pretty high as you can see. ;)
I actually did this on an early Saturday morning. Usually it's around 40-70Mbps during peak hours.
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PerfectCode @ 8th Nov 10:20PM:
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The CM100? I should pick that up and see if I would benefit from using it.
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DarkLogix @ 8th Nov 10:50PM:
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the cm100 is a d2 cable modem
I think he's talking about the DPC3000
»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···a168.pdf
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PerfectCode @ 8th Nov 11:27PM:
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Yep, you are correct. I was only looking on 'Linksys by Ciscos' website and saw the CM100.
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raffy616 @ 9th Nov 12:55AM:
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Yup, the DPC3000
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PerfectCode @ 9th Nov 01:24AM:
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said by raffy616 :
Yup, the DPC3000
Where can one purchase this modem? =/
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dekard @ 9th Nov 08:56AM:
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I upgraded from the Linksys wrt54g v3 to the dlink dir-655 and I saw a nice improvement in my performance both on wireless and wired. Its nice to know that in the next few years as the speeds increase in our area that I'll be in good shape.
Besides, I'm in a docsis 3.0 area and I'm loving this from my 22mb connection.
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PerfectCode @ 9th Nov 03:29PM:
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said by iansltx :
Direct to modem? Wow that sucks. Guess your connection decided to party like it's 1999...
Yeah, looks like it is still having a party... >_>
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PGHammer @ 9th Nov 05:09PM:
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said by obannvi :
When I logged into the router it said it was up to date. I even called Comcast and they said the WNR3500 is what they use. I may as well keep my WRT54G router hooked up because im getting the same speeds...LOL I dont understand what could be the problem. I figured a wireless N router would do the trick, according to Comcast.
Comcast also uses two other Linksys gigabit wireless-N routers with their Blast! and higher services: the WRT-310N/320N (the WRT-310N was the original choice; now, the lower-end option is the 320N) and the WRT-610N (the only wireless choice for Ultra and Extreme 50 subs in the Beltway Region). Both also include wired gigabit; the 310/320N is non-simultaneous dual-band, while the 610N is simultaneous dual-band. Both routers are N-ratified (in other words, ready for the final N standard). If your *adapter* does not support dual-band N (and some adapters don't support simultaneous dual-band, which is mandatory for maximum performance), that may be the weak link. If your router supports dual-band N, make sure your N adapters do also; otherwise, you'll only get half (or less) of the performance N is capable of. (If you have no N adapters in your LAN at all, but do have gigabit wired devices, then you can safely consider an N-wireless/gigabit-wired router such as the Linksys WRT-320N or re-certified WRT-310N.)
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obannvi @ 9th Nov 05:26PM:
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PGHammer, I thought about the whole "dual band" N adapter. My laptop has N built in, but its not dual band. Same goes for my USB N adapter. I was actually thinking about purchasing a dual band router and adapter to see if that fixes the issue. I was looking at the WRT-610N and the Netgear WNR3700. Thanks for your input.
Mike Wolf - Please do send the link. Im curious to see what you have...
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PGHammer @ 9th Nov 10:05PM:
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Why simultaneous dual-band N is critical - simultaneous dual-band N is like full-duplex for wired Ethernet; it lets you send while receiving (extremely useful for multitasking Internet applications, such as p2p, IM, e-mail, Web browsers, etc.), and simultaneous dual-band routers (such as the WRT-6xxN routers) won't get their best performance without adapters that also support dual-band at once. Single-band and non-simultaneous dual-band routers will, at best, perform only half as well, and in the case of low-band-only N routers, as little as a quarter as well as their simultaneous relatives (no better than wireless-G).
In a word - ouch!
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PerfectCode @ 19th Nov 07:27PM:
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said by hata28 : this is the wireless connection from my Asus Eee Netbook, wireless g only with the Netgear WNDR 3700
Well hata28, I picked up the router you own today (Netgear WNDR 3700) and at the moment I am having issues connecting my wireless clients to it. It is taking a long time to connect and when it does it is giving me the "limited or no connectivity" message. I have entered the passphrase correctly and everything.
Any thoughts?
Edit: I updated the firmware to V1.0.4. once I got things set up. Also, it seems to just be the passphrase that isnt working. The key (1,2,3, or 4) itself is working. =/
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hata28 @ 19th Nov 07:32PM:
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try to power cycle the router again, did u upgrade to latest beta firmware and there is a beta firmware which fix the meter....check that out on the netgear forum.
»forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=43754
...I posted an thread there about the Traffic meter.
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PerfectCode @ 19th Nov 07:42PM:
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said by hata28 :try to power cycle the router again, did u upgrade to latest beta firmware and there is a beta firmware which fix the meter....check that out on the netgear forum.
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forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=43754...I posted an thread there about the Traffic meter.
Yep, it looks like it upgraded to the beta firmware. Should I revert back? Can I?
The specific version it found was V1.0.4.35NA btw...
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hata28 @ 19th Nov 07:44PM:
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said by PerfectCode :said by hata28 :try to power cycle the router again, did u upgrade to latest beta firmware and there is a beta firmware which fix the meter....check that out on the netgear forum.
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forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=43754...I posted an thread there about the Traffic meter.
Yep, it looks like it upgraded to the beta firmware. Should I revert back? Can I?
i am using the 1.0.4.43NA this is the one that fix the traffic meter accuracy.
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PerfectCode @ 19th Nov 07:45PM:
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Is that on their website yet?
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hata28 @ 19th Nov 07:49PM:
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you have to call Tech support for it!
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PerfectCode @ 19th Nov 08:06PM:
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Lame!
So yeah, the passphrase isnt working but the network key is... I blame the beta firmware!
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Johkal @ 19th Nov 08:24PM:
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said by PGHammer :
Why simultaneous dual-band N is critical - simultaneous dual-band N is like full-duplex for wired Ethernet; it lets you send while receiving (extremely useful for multitasking Internet applications, such as p2p, IM, e-mail, Web browsers, etc.), and simultaneous dual-band routers (such as the WRT-6xxN routers) won't get their best performance without adapters that also support dual-band at once. Single-band and non-simultaneous dual-band routers will, at best, perform only half as well, and in the case of low-band-only N routers, as little as a quarter as well as their simultaneous relatives (no better than wireless-G).
In a word - ouch!
Dual-band means that you can choose whether to use the 2.4GHz band or the 5GHz band.
Simultaneous dual-band means that you can use both bands at the same time.
I have the WRT610N router with which I use the 2.4GHz band for all my "G" devices while using the 5GHz band for my "N" devices.
Also, an adapter has nothing to do with the "Simultaneous dual-band" feature. These routers work with any "B", "G", "N" or "A" device.
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madguy @ 20th Nov 12:42PM:
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This may be a dumb question but have you tried turning off your security on your wireless? I don't mean permanently but just as a means of ruling it out as a problem. My current router is a linksys DGL-4500 and during the times my connection is perfect and speedboost is kicking it has no problems hitting 37Meg and up on my wife's wireless laptop with a 16/2 tier. It is an overpriced router imao but it was the only one I saw that allowed prioritization of gaming.
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PerfectCode @ 21st Nov 04:17PM:
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said by madguy :
This may be a dumb question but have you tried turning off your security on your wireless? I don't mean permanently but just as a means of ruling it out as a problem. My current router is a linksys DGL-4500 and during the times my connection is perfect and speedboost is kicking it has no problems hitting 37Meg and up on my wife's wireless laptop with a 16/2 tier. It is an overpriced router imao but it was the only one I saw that allowed prioritization of gaming.
You mean D-link DGL 4500, no?
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