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Link Logger @ 4th Nov 02:31PM:
Intel sued for bribery and coercion
Intel sued for bribery and coercion by New York attorney general
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The world's largest microchip maker, Intel, was sued by New York's attorney general for using bullying, bribery and coercion to protect its dominant market position in a lawsuit that followed a record fine for anti-competitive behaviour levied on the company by the European Commission.
After a 20-month investigation, attorney general Andrew Cuomo accused Intel of striking deals in which computer makers such as Dell, Hewlett-Packard and IBM agreed to choose its microprocessors over those of competitors in return for billions of kickbacks disguised as "rebates".
»www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009···coercion
This should prove to be interesting as there are all sorts of angles to this story (business, political, etc).
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Cudni @ 4th Nov 03:57PM:
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said by Link Logger :
This should prove to be interesting as there are all sorts of angles to this story (business, political, etc).
Indeed and it is just a beginning. Not surprisingly Intel is denying the latest accusation and is appealing the fine imposed by the EC
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DataDoc @ 4th Nov 04:40PM:
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What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
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Link Logger @ 4th Nov 04:44PM:
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said by DataDoc :
What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
Height, and the difference in height between 'rebate' and 'kickback' is dependent on the thickness of the table on which the deal was completed.
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Trel @ 4th Nov 04:48PM:
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said by Link Logger :said by DataDoc :
What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
Height, and the difference in height between 'rebate' and 'kickback' is dependent on the thickness of the table on which the deal was completed.
Blake
That was one of the most beautifully worded statements I've ever had the privilege of reading.
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Rob @ 4th Nov 04:58PM:
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We've know this for years. This isn't the first time that Intel has been accused of using these tactics to ensure that their product is the only product used.
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SUMware @ 4th Nov 07:20PM:
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said by Trel :said by Link Logger :said by DataDoc :
What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
Height, and the difference in height between 'rebate' and 'kickback' is dependent on the thickness of the table on which the deal was completed.
Blake
That was one of the most beautifully worded statements I've ever had the privilege of reading.
And not correct. 'Kickback' implies irregular and/or illegal behavior, while 'rebate' does not.
kickback:
Part of an income paid to a person having influence over the size or payment of the income, esp by some illegal arrangement.
A return of a percentage of a sum of money already received, typically as a result of pressure, coercion, or a secret agreement.
A percentage of income given to a person in a position of power or influence as payment for having made the income possible: usually considered improper or unethical.
rebate:
A deduction from an amount to be paid or a return of part of an amount given in payment.
To deduct or return (an amount) from a payment or bill.
(Business / Commerce) a refund of a fraction of the amount payable or paid, as for goods purchased in quantity; discount.
Give a reduction in the price during a sale; "The store is rebating refrigerators this week".
Detailed explanations:
kickback
rebate
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SUMware @ 4th Nov 08:55PM:
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From The Register
4th November 2009 - said by Rik Myslewski :
The exceptionally detailed 83-page complaint (PDF) alleges that Intel "engaged in a systematic worldwide campaign of illegal, exclusionary conduct to maintain its monopoly power and prices in the market for x86 microprocessors."
In a statement, Cuomo writes that "Rather than compete fairly, Intel used bribery and coercion to maintain a stranglehold on the market. Intel's actions not only unfairly restricted potential competitors, but also hurt average consumers who were robbed of better products and lower prices. These illegal tactics must stop and competition must be restored to this vital marketplace."
The suit includes language favorable to Intel's prime competitor, AMD. "Starting in 2001, the threat from competition became salient at Intel," the complaint reads. "Intels biggest CPU competitor, Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. ("AMD"), had begun developing x86 chips that not only competed with Intel's offerings, but were in many ways more desirable."
In response to that competition, the suit alleges, Intel began an "illegal campaign" to choke off AMD's distribution channels. In that effort, the suit reads, "Intel paid hundreds of millions in some cases billions of dollars in 'rebates' [that] bore no genuine relationship to pro-competitive, volume-based discounts or reasonable efforts to meet specific competitive offers."
In addition, according to the filing, Intel "threatened OEMs with retaliation if they persisted in dealing with AMD." As a result, and in exchange for "billions of dollars in rebate payments and other benefits," the suit notes that Dell, for example, agreed not to sell any AMD products from 2001 to 2006.
Among other charges, the suit alleges that Intel in 2002 reached an agreement with HP (which it subsequently extended to 2004) that "capped HPs sales of AMD-based business desktop PCs" to a maximum of 5 per cent of that line - which guaranteed that Intel would enjoy the remaining 95 per cent.
Multiple emails cited in the filing indicate that Intel was aware that its actions could be used to implicate it in anti-competitive behavior. One email from "an Intel executive" to Acer, for example, describes an internal Intel electronic record-keeping tool as "a very sensitive and important document which can come under anti-trust scrutiny. Please avoid using strong language like the ones below: a. 'we need kick [sic] them [AMD] out of the major ... companies.' b. maintain the [market segment share] and beat AMD out of the major ... accounts.'"
The lawsuit is just the latest in Intel's legal woes. Having recently been fined 1.06bn ($1.5bn) by the EU for similar - if not identical - anti-competitive practices, the company is reportedly facing a formal complaint by the US Federal Trade Commission in "a matter of weeks or a matter of months," according to sources cited by Reuters.
Intel did not immediately respond to our request for comment.
[some emphasis added]
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Matt @ 4th Nov 10:24PM:
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Is this a desktop issue? AMD servers are prominently displayed on both HP and Dell's website. They are significantly cheaper than Intel-based servers too.
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Steve @ 5th Nov 12:21AM:
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said by DataDoc :
What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
These rebates are typically advertising allowances, so if Dell runs an add for their computers, and they highlight the Intel component (cue the jingle), Intel helps pay for the advertising. These are "ad co-op programs", and are in almost every industry - they are universal and uncontroversial in their usual state.
The claim here is that Intel is leveraging this kind of rebate not so much as an offset against advertising costs, but as a carrot/stick to keep vendors from adopting AMD.
"We won't give you any ad co-op dollars if you are using AMD. You're with us or you're not", and these co-op dollars are so large that they are hard to ignore.
This seems hardcore, but I'm not 100% convinced that it's wrong. It may be illegal.
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anon @ 5th Nov 09:58AM:
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Suing Intel in this rough economic time by US???... This coincides with the Chinese's debut of her 'quadrillion' supercomputer with 6,144 Intel CPUs and 5,120 AMD GPUs inside!!! (»www.tomshardware.com/news/China-···966.html)
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SUMware @ 5th Nov 09:09AM:
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said by Steve :
This seems hardcore, but I'm not 100% convinced that it's wrong. It may be illegal.
The following are some of the concepts behind the accusations against Intel in the US, EU, and elsewhere. They are very serious charges with potentially severe legal penalties.
Coersion:
Coercion is the practice of compelling a person to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation or some other form of pressure or force.
Economic coercion is when a controller of a vital resource uses his advantage to compel a person to do something he would not do if this resource were not monopolized.
Economic coercion requires market power. In the above example, the coercer's refusal to supply the coercee would be meaningless if the coercee had access to other independent sources of supply. But the coercer can turn his conditional refusal into a vital threat only because of his coercive monopoly over an essential resource, with no other substitutes. In a competitive marketplace, the possibility of economic coercion is much reduced as suppliers are compelled by competition to accept less money or labor for their goods.
Coercion, as an element of duress, is grounds for seeking the Rescission or cancellation of a contract or deed. When one party to an instrument is forced against his or her will to agree to its terms the document can be declared void by a court.
The coercion of small businesses by a cartel to fix prices of particular items supplied to them is a violation of antitrust laws, which are intended to prevent the restraint of competition in commerce.
Finally, economic coercion is generally unlawful under most systems of anti-trust legislation, where it can amount to either a criminal offence as under the Sherman Act of the US or an administrative offence liable to a mere fine as under EU legislation on the abuse of a dominant position.
Bribery:
Bribery is a white collar crime in which money, a favor or something else of value is promised to, given to, or taken from an individual or corporation in an attempt to sway his or its views, opinions, or decisions.
Issuing or accepting bribes is a serious crime that may result in heavy fines or several years in prison. Both civil and criminal charges can be levied against those suspected of being involved in kickback schemes.
Bribery:
Bribery, a form of pecuniary corruption, is an act implying money or gift given that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in discharge of a public or legal duty. The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient's conduct. It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage, or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity.
Restraint of trade:
Contracts or combinations that tend, or are designed, to eliminate or stifle competition, create a Monopoly, artificially maintain prices, or otherwise hamper or obstruct the course of trade as it would be carried on if it were left to the control of natural economic forces.
As used in the Sherman Anti-Trust Act (15 U.S.C.A. § 1 et seq.), unreasonable restraints of trade are illegal per se and interfere with free competition in business and commercial transactions. Such restraint tends to restrict production, affect prices, or otherwise control the market to the detriment of purchasers or consumers of goods and services. A restraint of trade that is ordinarily reasonable can be rendered unreasonable if it is accompanied by a Specific Intent to achieve the equivalent of a forbidden restraint.
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MalibuMaxx @ 5th Nov 12:38PM:
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Exactly and welcome to the free market...
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Santa Fe @ 5th Nov 12:45PM:
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Well, here comes the state gravy train a rolling. Convenient NY waits till AFTER the EC judgment to file their own suit. If this is SO bad, why didn't they file this years ago? Because now they will have a legal precedent to fall back on when their case goes to the jury.
And watch the other states fall in line, FREE money! :mad:
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Curlee @ 5th Nov 12:54PM:
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Perhaps Cuomo sensed a changed political climate.
What's significant to me is that it can no longer be said that "it's just those crazy Europeans".
Would this indeed go to a jury, rather than be heard by a judge?
I hope all these folks realize that Intel plays hardball...
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SUMware @ 5th Nov 12:55PM:
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said by Santa Fe :
Well, here comes the state gravy train a rolling.
And watch the other states fall in line, FREE money!
The case hasn't even been brought to court yet. Intel could be found not guilty. You seem to be jumping the gun just a bit.
And if Intel is found guilty (perhaps years down the road, and after numerous appeals) would you have problems with Intel being held lawfully responsible and accountable for their crimes?
said by Santa Fe :
If this is SO bad, why didn't they file this years ago?
Ask them:
Contact the N.Y. Attorney General
On this page, you will find information to help you contact Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and key links for reaching the Attorney General's Office.
said by Curlee :
What's significant to me is that it can no longer be said that "it's just those crazy Europeans".
Sure, let's all just ignore the law. Then all corporations can do exactly whatever they want.
Rational, lawful, competitive, capitalist? NOT!
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noway1 @ 5th Nov 01:56PM:
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Thanks for the heads-up. I had a laptop on order with an Intel processor...cancelled that one today. Went from AMD-->Intel for my latest home computer but don't want to put all my eggs in a dirty basket.
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amungus @ 5th Nov 05:19PM:
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Interesting...
(as most know) AMD's been into the whole anti-trust thing for awhile.
»breakfree.amd.com/en-us/antitrust.aspx
("here's a map for that" ;) )
Curious that this guy is going for it now.
Not that I hope Intel gets hammered terribly and owes boatloads of money, but it would be nice to see them humbled a little bit. After all, without a competitor such as AMD, who knows where we'd be today.
I do agree with this statement (from: »www.pcworld.com/article/181441/n···ews.html :
""It is time for Intel to admit its misconduct, repair the harms it has perpetrated and change its business practices," he said. "Its legal strategy is clearly not working and its broad claims of innocence are being shown to be more hollow each passing day. The quicker Intel owns up to its actions, the quicker it, and the entire computer industry, can move on.""
Suck it up, admit you didn't play fairly, and own up to the devious tactics. I think we'd all be better off if things could just move on.
It also does seem that more major OEM computers have been becoming available with the choice of AMD than in the past few years... Wonder if Intel kind of started backing off a little...
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Curlee @ 6th Nov 01:54AM:
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said by SUMware :said by Curlee :
What's significant to me is that it can no longer be said that "it's just those crazy Europeans".
Sure, let's all just ignore the law. Then all corporations can do exactly whatever they want.
Rational, lawful, competitive, capitalist? NOT!
I'm at a loss to explain how you got from my statement to yours. Where did I suggest we ignore the law? You appear to be attacking straw men.
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Cheese @ 6th Nov 08:14AM:
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said by Steve :said by DataDoc :
What is the difference between a "rebate" and a "kickback"?
These rebates are typically advertising allowances, so if Dell runs an add for their computers, and they highlight the Intel component (cue the jingle), Intel helps pay for the advertising. These are "ad co-op programs", and are in almost every industry - they are universal and uncontroversial in their usual state.
The claim here is that Intel is leveraging this kind of rebate not so much as an offset against advertising costs, but as a carrot/stick to keep vendors from adopting AMD.
"We won't give you any ad co-op dollars if you are using AMD. You're with us or you're not", and these co-op dollars are so large that they are hard to ignore.
This seems hardcore, but I'm not 100% convinced that it's wrong. It may be illegal.
Illegal = wrong
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SUMware @ 6th Nov 08:27AM:
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said by Curlee :said by SUMware :said by Curlee :
What's significant to me is that it can no longer be said that "it's just those crazy Europeans".
Sure, let's all just ignore the law. Then all corporations can do exactly whatever they want.
Rational, lawful, competitive, capitalist? NOT!
I'm at a loss to explain how you got from my statement to yours. Where did I suggest we ignore the law? You appear to be attacking straw men.
My apologies if I misinterpreted your comments.
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SUMware @ 6th Nov 10:16AM:
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Source: TGDaily
From ITBusinessEdge
Nov 6, 2009 - said by Kara Reeder :
FTC to Join Battle Against Intel?
On the heels of New York's antitrust charges against Intel, it is expected that the Federal Trade Commission will join the fray against the chip maker, according to Computerworld. Dan Olds, principal analyst with The Gabriel Consulting Group, says:
It wouldn't surprise me to see the FTC jump into the fight with an antitrust action of their own against Intel, if only so that they don't look like they're being lazy in the face of actions from the European Union and now New York.
According to John Balto, a former policy director at the FTC, charges by the FTC:
would be much more significant than those brought by AMD and the New York Attorney General ... The FTC case will be a case about the future. It will be focusing on dynamic competition, the impact on innovation, on how Intel's conduct ... is going to harm competition and consumers in the future, stifling the ability of new rivals to emerge...
Industry analysts say antitrust action by the FTC could happen before the end of the year.
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dave @ 6th Nov 11:02AM:
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said by Cheese :
Illegal = wrong
Oh, hardly. The concept of right and wrong is a moral question, whereas the law is merely an agreement.
The law, for example, may in some places and times permit the imprisonment of innocent people. That does not make it right.
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Steve @ 6th Nov 11:20AM:
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said by Cheese :
Illegal = wrong
Oh?
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Curlee @ 6th Nov 12:26PM:
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said by Cheese :
Illegal = wrong
Not really. Illegal = proscribed by our duly elected representatives.
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SUMware @ 7th Nov 12:28AM:
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From InternetNews
November 6, 2009 - said by Andy Patrizio :
Digging Into N.Y.'s Antitrust Suit Against Intel
Why is New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo suing Intel?
New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo caused quite a stir this week with his antitrust suit against Intel, accusing the chip giant of conducting "an illegal campaign to deprive AMD of distribution channels."
More than a few writers and bloggers chalked it up to politics. Cuomo's ambitions are no secret: he wishes to be governor of the state just like his father Mario once was. With current governor David Patterson performing abysmally in opinion polls and up for reelection next year, this could be the time for the son of one of New York's most famous governors to strike.
But really, would even the most ambitious of politicians put together a detailed 83-page complaint (available here in PDF format) as an election gimmick? Glenn Manishin, an antitrust attorney and partner at the Washington D.C. law firm of Duane Morris doesn't think so.
"Considering how much effort went into filing that data, you don't compile that much data just to file for headlines. He has to put up or shut up, so he's got to proceed and litigate this thing," Manishin told InternetNews.com.
Intel has consistently denied any wrongdoing and said it plans to continue to defend itself in court against any antitrust charges.
Cuomo's office said it had examined millions of pages of e-mails and documents since it opened an investigation in late 2007. Much of that has been undoubtedly helped along by the release of documents by the European Commission following its $1.45 billion fine against Intel earlier this year.
Intel certainly has a track record for getting the attention of antitrust officials. The company has been investigated as far back as 1991 for unsavory business practices. In 1995, it settled a lengthy legal case with AMD, but that wouldn't be the last time the two would go at it legally.
In 2004, AMD filed suit against Intel in Delaware for anti-competitive behavior, citing marketing dollars used as extortion to lock out or limit use of AMD processors. Also that year, Japan's competition agency raided Intel's Tokyo offices. A year later, it issued a warning but no fine to Intel for anti-competitive practices.
That year the EU raided multiple Intel European offices, and in 2006, the Korean Fair Trade Commission (KFTC) raided Intel's Seoul offices. Intel was later hit with a $25 million fine. In 2008 the Federal Trade Commission opened another investigation of Intel and may take action as well. Finally came this year's EU fine and Cuomo's suit.
"It's pretty daunting that in Japan, Korea and the EU, where full scale investigations occurred, the outcome is the same, where they issued lengthy detailed statements of fact that looked pretty persuasive. It wouldn't take much for any AG, whether he wants to run for office or not, to see it as his obligation to step forward here," notes Albert Foer, president of the American Antitrust Institute* in Washington, D.C.
Scott Testa, professor of Business Administration at Cabrini College in Philadelphia, adds "My gut is Intel is a very aggressive company and [Cuomo] felt there was an opportunity there, and felt that New York consumers were being wronged, and thought he'd make his move. Intel is very dominant in their market."
So Cuomo is hardly the first to go after Intel. As Intel defends itself in Europe it also prepares to defend itself in the Delaware case against AMD. The first meeting with the judge is in January.
All of which left Manishin confused about Cuomo's actions. "I find it surprising that New York would sue on its own. That's curious because either it means and I don't know for sure that New York and attorney general Cuomo felt that the federal government will not proceed against Intel or he knows they want to proceed and wants to go first," he said.
From the outside, it's hard to tell whether this is a split between the feds and the state, because usually they work together. "That's significant because going back to the 1990s, the association of attorneys general, the DOJ and the FTC have worked together, hand in glove and are usually co-plaintiffs," said Manishin.
It's not so unusual for a state to try and protect its citizens if the antitrust laws are being violated, argued Foer. "The guy's job as AG is to protect the consumers and businesses of his state and make sure antitrust laws are being applied," he told InternetNews.com. "They have no reason to assume the FTC will bring a case. Even there, the FTC is not going to get a remedy for the people of his state."
Cuomo didn't just file under the state laws of New York, he went to Delaware and sued under federal law, something he has a right to do, as what's known as a parens patriae action.
Foer wonders if there isn't a potential settlement in the works, something Intel has sworn up and down it would not do. If Intel and AMD settle, New York gets nothing while AMD could walk away a few billion dollars richer.
"Perhaps there's some major settlement under way. Maybe that explains why the FTC has been moving slowly. If there is a settlement, the states might want to be at the table to make sure their interests are satisfied adequately," said Foer.
Manishin thinks that could be a credible explanation for Cuomo's behavior, since it's so outside the norm. "They wouldn't have the advantage of getting testimony of those folks from trial in the [AMD] lawsuit," he notes.
Right now, the testimony is from executives and e-mails dating back as far as 2002. A trial could mean a parade of past and present PC OEM CEOs like Michael Dell, Mark Hurd, Carly Fiorina and Sam Palmisano testifying under oath, which could be either devastating or exculpatory to Intel.
Testa doesn't believe it was on that level. "I truly believe that this was a mid-level, low-level management issue where you had an aggressive sales person or sales managers. That's my gut. These rebates are public knowledge. This is between two public companies," he said.
The latter part of Cuomo's claim that "Intel launched an illegal campaign to deprive AMD of distribution channels and consumers of product choice and lower prices" could be a tough sell, since no one would argue that CPU prices haven't come down over the course of the decade even as they advanced and became more powerful.
Manishin said the counterpoint to the pricing argument is the question of whether Intel's actions prevented AMD from helping to drive prices even lower.
* AAI Calls Cuomo's Antitrust Lawsuit against Intel "Critical to Maintaining Competition" in the Microchip Market
11/4/2009 - The American Antitrust Institute (AAI) applauded New York State's complaint against Intel which was announced earlier today.
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public @ 7th Nov 03:42AM:
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said by Rob :
We've know this for years. This isn't the first time that Intel has been accused of using these tactics to ensure that their product is the only product used.
old news. It started with the i386 clones.
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