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i386 @ 7th Jun 01:51PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

oh... and, Netbux is back up. So it didn't really go down.
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i386 @ 7th Jun 05:37PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

said by removed:
I wonder how »www.midifox.com/ has close to 100 customers if they haven't even opened yet.

It's looking like midifox is being run off of a reseller account.


I questioned the guy who made that claim (mrcore). Let's see what he responds with. I wonder if he's going to just come up with some BS?
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removed @ 7th Jun 06:55PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I'd say so..
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i386 @ 7th Jun 06:56PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Yup.
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pstation @ 8th Jun 12:11AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I'm getting an empty directory now when loading netbux.org, so it looks like the owner deleted the files and is now moving along to the next scam of his. »kyrotek.com/ is the company that claimed to own netbux.org.

With more than fifteen years experience in the computer technical field the
people at Kyrotek are devoted to building value not only for our customers, but
also for the communities that our company and our employees call home. We will
work with you to fabricate that ideal PC to fit your everyday needs and desires
with complete warranties, while keeping the cost down to sometimes 50% of
mainstream competition.

Kyrotek also specializes in computer upgrading, on-site local repairs, on-site
network setup, on-site computer/software training & much more. Let Kyrotek be
your personal gateway into the world of technology.

Kyrotek – Your Technical Solution. Located in Lake City, Florida. On-site service
is welcome to all Central Florida, North Florida and South Georgia residents!
Computer fabrication, repairs and sales are available to anyone in the United
States.

But yet, "Kyrotek" is not even a real registered company.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 12:33AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

That will be an AWFUL one. I sure do hope he doesn't scam people out of $600+.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 12:34AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Who knows an incorporation search? I would like to look up "Kyrotek". They claim to be an incorporation. A search on Google for an inc. search shows nothing good.
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removed @ 8th Jun 01:25AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

You'd have to look everywhere. They may be in Florida, but they don't have to be registered there to be incorporated. Delaware and Nevada are some of the more popular places since it's easier/cheaper in those areas.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 01:35AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

ah.
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danj3ris @ 9th Jun 06:01AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

C'mon Karl, a mental illness? To repeatedly get conned? That sounds more like someone with a great deal of trust in the human race (something you seem to lack) whose actions eventually reveal bad judgement. And then you speak as if "we" will eventually return to say you were right, like "we","they","them" are some kind of mindless hoard of hell-bent zombies who want nothing more than to make money with minimal effort. Im not a Zombie, I have no mental illness. I know this sounds like a crazy idea, but what is the point of having money if you dont use it? I just happen to take risks with my money. Some risks have payed off, some have not.

Again it seems that a majority of the people on this thread are so focused on labeling something a scam that the second there is the slightest sign of trouble, you all jump at it like its gold. The fact is, people who put some effort into these risks do not "Jump" headfirst into what they know can turn out bad.

In my first post I said I could give a rat's posterior about what you all think. Well why should I when everyone has a biased view on the matter? NETbux is a scam before and after people get money for doing exactly what the website said one should do to get money.

And because I know that someone providing proof of payment does little to sway your opinion on whether Netbux is a scam or not, I suggest you find your own proof. I'd give you my referral link to get you started but of course my post would be deleted.

Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p
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Karl Bode @ 9th Jun 09:09AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

quote:
C'mon Karl, a mental illness?


Yes. Look at you here, trying to justify being swindled by another MLM to a bunch of strangers.
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removed @ 9th Jun 06:06PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

said by danj3ris:

Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p
It's your understanding? Please. You make it sound like you had to ask people or do research. The third reply to this thread was me telling everyone about my netbux experience.

I thought it was at least worth looking at, but then that ass clown bought my account and decided to harass me.
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i386 @ 9th Jun 06:11PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Netbux has an 'under construction' page. Kyrotek Media doesn't have the PC page anymore -- it's now a link to netbux again.
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pstation @ 10th Jun 04:27PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Someone that bought unreferred users via stormpay received this message when attempting to file a claim:

quote:
Closed by StormPay
10 Jun 2005 10:56 Hello Netbux Investors:

On behalf of StormPay, Inc., I wish to bring you up to date on our efforts to communicate with Mr. Chad French in regard to his recent transaction with you. We have directed multiple e-mail and telephone communications to Mr. French in order to ascertain the specific facts and circumstances as to why his website is no longer available and why he has failed and refused to communicate with us and you regarding the pending claim you have asserted against him. Obviously, without any recent or direct communication with Mr. French it is impossible to determine what his future intent is in regard to following through with the commitments he has made to you.

Your request to be reimbursed has been forwarded to our Risk Management team for review. If fraudulent activity is found Mr. French will be sanctioned and suspended from transacting any further business through StormPay. Unfortunately, at this time there are no funds available within Mr. French’s StormPay account to pay out to you on your claim. He has long since withdrawn the funds that were being held in his StormPay account.

If any funds are recovered from Mr. French, your StormPay account will be reimbursed. Rest assured that we are doing everything within our powers to recover these funds including contacting the authorities if necessary.
We regret these circumstances but urge you not to allow this situation to deter you in your future on-line transacting. We strive to make StormPay the safest and securest on-line payment processing system available. If we are successful in recovering funds we will make direct contact with you.

As with programs of this type, as the buyer you must carefully consider the statements and representations of the merchant before investing. You must determine what is a promise or guarantee as opposed to what is an anticipated result given a certain set of variable facts and circumstances. You must determine how reasonable and likely those anticipated results are before you determine to spend your money.

With all that being said, we truly regret these circumstances and will keep you advised on developments as they occur. Of course, we still hold out hope that Mr. French will soon get his site back up and running and make good on the promises and representations he has made. For these reasons we will have to close your claim at this time.


The funny thing is that some people still don't think it's a scam in spite of this.
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i386 @ 13th Jun 08:49PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Netbux now redirects to another site, searchoodles.com.
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anon @ 13th Jun 10:36PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Netbux scamed you dont get scamed again

Chad P French and Tiffany L French

Chad P French owns all rights over the netbux scripts, that are used by netbux, search-pay, pay-pup, pay-pup2, ibux,
and moneyjet

addresses
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phone numbers
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domains owned by Chad P French Officially
usellco.com
acflb.org
kyrotek.com
netbux.org
xull.org
kinx.org
searchoodles.com

domains that dont admit there owned by Chad P French (NO WHOIS INFO MEANS THEY WILL SCAM YOU TOO) SAME SCRIPT = SAME GUY

search-pay.com
moneyjet.net
pay-pup.com
pay-pup2.com
ibux.net
Lapiter.com

and finally email addresses to contact him at
chad@acflb.org
request@usellco.com
support@usellco.com
contact@kyrotek.com
admin@netbux.org

There are more find them yourself

and Dont get scamed again by him

Chad saying no more netbux
»www.gptresources.com/showthread.php?t=7525

Mod edit: The addresses and phone numbers were removed since there isn't any public sources listed. Republishing information already public is OK, but not without verified sources.
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removed @ 14th Jun 12:31AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Here's the address:
5122 Sw 47th Loop
Lake Butler, FL 32054

And his PO Box:
Route 3 Box 1550
Lake Butler, FL 32054

Here's the phone numbers:
386-496-9693
386-867-0711

Note to the mods: All of this info was acquired using public sources. Please do not delete.
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pstation @ 14th Jun 01:50AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

quote:
I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several reasons.

First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by filing a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot generate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true because before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your account from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many disputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the account was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).

My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it forwards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even listening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with other internet projects.

The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under another dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real requests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. And I had just made a deal with the host about adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwed by them as well.

Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of service that people may find to be helpful.

If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 95% of the funds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky enough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.

If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. With all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that derived from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.

Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like it is without Netbux in the first place.

If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mail contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.



owner of netbux posted that...
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i386 @ 14th Jun 02:13PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Translation:

I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several re
*asons.

First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by f
*iling a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot gen
*erate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they
*have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true becau
*se before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal
* any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your acco
*unt from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the
*account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many d
*isputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the accou
*nt was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).

My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it for
*wards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even list
*ening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with othe
*r internet projects.

The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under ano
*ther dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real req
*uests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. Because I am a scammer and don't want
* to be caught, I cannot continue this service. And I had just made a deal with the host ab
*out adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwe
*d by them as well.

Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-
*make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I
* will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of se
*rvice that people may find to be helpful.

If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 2% of the f
*unds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) because we are
* scammers or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky e
*nough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.

If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. W
*ith all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that deri
*ved from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.

Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like
*it is without Netbux in the first place.

If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mai
*l contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.

(*) WARNING 9 long line(s) split

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etoast66 @ 14th Jun 05:08PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Why do all of these scams have a Chad, a Tiffany and are based in Florida? See »Antispamcard.com Information Collection
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ltrouse @ 15th Jun 08:20AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I’m not sure about the Chad and Tiffany thing, but I think the reason they are based in Florida is due to our property laws. If a person gets sued there are a lot of assets that can’t be touched. That’s why OJ moved here.
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i386 @ 15th Jun 08:25PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Anyone know where to get free background checks?

Chad French
Lake Butler, FL 32054
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i386 @ 21st Jun 03:40AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Anyway, chadf has been banned from the mynetbux site, which they linked to.

Good for him, he's a scammer. Also his 'church' is 'temporarily unavailable', acflb.org.
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Mordy @ 28th Jun 06:49PM:
(topic move) Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

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The post that was here, and all followups to it, were moved to a new topic .. »www.igotscammed.com
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i386 @ 3rd Jul 12:52AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Pay-Pup now has "new ownership". I think it is Jordan Anders (from Midifox Hosting), just changing his name.

Jordan is a *HUGE* scammer. I would advise caution to anyone thinking about using his hosting company (Midifox).
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i386 @ 5th Jul 12:44AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I am assuming this "church" ("Anchor Christian Fellowship of Lake Butler" aka "ACFLB") is fake, just here to play with our minds. Anyone know more about this "church" that Chad P. French has?

I have a little more information about him that I can give. He is a 20-year-old residing in Lake Butler, FL. On "MyNetbux," they are planning a lawsuit and already have a lawyer.
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i386 @ 6th Jul 03:25PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I think I've found some more e-mails to contact Chad French at. It looks like he may have 2 Gmail accounts.

chadfrench@gmail.com
chad.french@gmail.com
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i386 @ 8th Jul 07:07AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

From the looks of it here, it looks like Chad P. French (the owner of Netbux) also owns Midifox Hosting.

Jordan Anders = Owner of Midifox Hosting = Owner of Pay-Pup = Chad P. French

Be sure to avoid these guys, there's enough evidence here!
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anon @ 10th Jul 04:37AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

looks like pay-pup has fucked off with my cash.
did not even have 1 payout with them and i bought like 10 referals.
why dont I listen when people say scam?
because of all the other morons shouting this is great I been paid once, now im gonna buy a shit loada refs and then they bugger off.
If you got deceived, submit full details of the Web Site details information with your e-payment confirmation and file a complaint email to the followings to alert the relevant authorities of the Internet Fraud:
1. Internet Fraud Coordinator: ifcc.tp@fbi.gov.
2. International Web Police: Director@Web-Police.org.
3. ISP Provider; abuse@........ (refer to Step One, search the abuse email contact of ISP Provider /and IP Address belongs to…and complaint of web site Network abuse).
4. Locate authority (refer to web Registrant station address, search on Internet to locate of country authority; such as “address/state police” or “(country) government authority”.
5. E-gold Service & CC to Web Site Owner.

The Authority information sites for 1, 2 & 3 are:
»www.web-police.org/
»www.ifccfbi.gov/
»www.scamwatch.com/
»www.fraud.org/

hope that helps guys, make sure everyone reports these jerk offs:D
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removed @ 10th Jul 04:40AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

said by securitysam:

why dont I listen when people say scam?
Greed. Everyone wants to make some easy money. Unfortunately, sometimes the deal is so good that one ignores the little voice(s) that say(s) "don't do this, you idiot. It's a scam."

This is - unfortunately - why so many get burned by 419 scams. (and, well, other scams)
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i386 @ 10th Jul 05:45AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

If you want money, look into getting a job that pays some money every hour. It's better than sitting at your computer all day doing searches or clicking links.
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anon @ 10th Jul 02:50PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Heh, bloodyhell.... I never thought of getting a job. :o
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i386 @ 12th Jul 06:04PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?
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i386 @ 18th Jul 06:11PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

I think some pictures of Chad French are here (not that it matters):
url removed
That is his personal site.

mod note: I took a look; even though someone else had previously said this was a Chad French site, there is no evidence linking him to this site.
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removed @ 18th Jul 11:01PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

said by i386:

Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?
How so?
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pstation @ 3rd Aug 01:26AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

»free.hostultra.com/~windozeuser/romn125.html - interesting convo with the owner of paypup...
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i386 @ 3rd Aug 01:48PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

One day, he has 180 "audits" to do. Next day, he has 300 "audits" to do.

Scam. Just like Netbux. Notice how it's down now (pay-pup2.com)?
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i386 @ 3rd Aug 01:52PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams

This is like that "MAKE $500 TO READ AN E-MAIL!!!" scam.
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