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removed @ 13th May 12:29PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
You haven't earned shit til you've gotten the money.
Post back with proof that they've sent you money via PayPal (or whatever the hell they're using now) and then we'll believe you. Until then, it's a scam.
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i386 @ 13th May 03:12PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
that's a fucking lie. he has no payment info so until then (as removed said), it's a scam. I don't see a way this could not possibly be a scam.
btw, they're using stormpay
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i386 @ 13th May 04:10PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I sent aaron@chplaptops.com a nice e-mail. Told him that he could get into legal shit. LOL.
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removed @ 13th May 04:19PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Looks like chplaptops.com is going to be a similar site... like freeipods and the like. Yawn.
The Interweb has too many of these sites as it is. Silly kids.
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i386 @ 13th May 07:46PM:
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Heh, yeah, seems like it. But they say something about "redoing our codes" or something. But freeipods was legit (and still is). Next one I want to get is the mini mac. I love mac.
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i386 @ 13th May 07:47PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I dunno though, this *might* not be a scam. Though chances aren't that likely. I am working with someone to help me figure this out (he has paypup on the $50 mark, so we'll be able to figure it out fast).
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anon @ 13th May 09:52PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
more suspicious arises: the link to the supposed copyright holder's page (Kryotek Media »kryotek.com) has only one link, which incidentally leads right back to netbux.
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removed @ 13th May 09:54PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by i386:
I dunno though, this *might* not be a scam. Though chances aren't that likely. I am working with someone to help me figure this out (he has paypup on the $50 mark, so we'll be able to figure it out fast).
Well, if it ain't, I'll start Googling.
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i386 @ 13th May 09:57PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I'm pretty sure it is though.
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removed @ 13th May 09:57PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Me too. If it sounds too good to be true...
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anon @ 13th May 10:18PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
i think i've figured out how it works.
i've noticed from searching around for the past hours that netbux seems to have a routine of switching policies at the last minute before it's pay-time. this would explain why i've seen a different rendition of the "policies" that netbux has each time i go to another site that has something to do with netbux, including their own site. in addition to that, i've seen user stats of netbux (of the ones that post clips of them to forums and such) that say $500 earned, $500 to be paid, $0 paid. also, it interests me that there is such a large dispute over whether or not netbux is acutally a scam, and i believe this in and of itself can be used as proof that it is a scam because there wouldn't be this large of a dispute all over the internet about whether or not netbux is a scam if it really weren't. also, i think it's pretty funny that a so-called legitimate company supplies links to buy illegitimate modchips for gaming platforms, not that im saying this proves it is a scam or not, but it is extremely fishy and does work enormously to discredit the legitimacy of this operation.
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i386 @ 14th May 01:07AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Also, chplaptops.com -- the founder of Netbux! That aaron guy seems to be someone named 'mrcore', with the real name of 'Tim Core'. Since he has a Netbux referral link in his signature (go to their "Temporary Forums" at the stupid chplaptops thing).
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removed @ 14th May 01:55AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I don't follow.
This punk is the one who bought my account. How he is the owner of Netbux is beyond me.
I'm not saying that you're wrong - well, maybe a little - but it's just confusing. Got details?
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i386 @ 14th May 03:19AM:
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Nope, he's not, and I've confirmed that. He appears to be the founder of "Netbux-Reminder Service", which you can read more about here:
»www.chplaptops.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5
chplaptops is supposed to be ezlaptop. They claim they will give the gifts. But I don't think it's true. I'll prove if it's true, though.
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anon @ 14th May 03:57AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
»img190.echo.cx/img190/7467/netbu···a3dr.jpg
taken last payment when they still used paypal.
dumbasses. I found this stupid forum using netbux and I'm making MORE money while laughing at you retards complain.
now shove that up your pipe and smoke it. ;)
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jonez @ 14th May 08:28AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
hmm....well there is proof in the pudding there.
is that real?
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anon @ 14th May 01:07PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
100%
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removed @ 14th May 01:10PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
That was almost a month ago. I don't see any other success stories.
said by stdstd:
dumbasses. I found this stupid forum using netbux and I'm making MORE money while laughing at you retards complain.
No, you found this stupid forum using Google.
And I'm making more money than you without having to search for crap. :uhh:
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i386 @ 14th May 08:55PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Netbux uses Google/Yahoo/MSN/the rest. So, it's not really Netbux finding it, as removed said.
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sonic2000 @ 15th May 05:02AM:
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I had strong feeling something was wrong when I was on the registeration page of netbux.org, although the domain was good, and the website was clean, I wasn't on a secure connection (https) when on their registeration page. That was a clue to do some searching on the internet for the credibility of the site.
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anon @ 15th May 03:02PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
lol it is quite ironic, i was trying to find those 2 websites to warn my friends about this scam....and i searched for them on netbux.org
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i386 @ 15th May 06:16PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Some New Info About Netbux:
1. - They appear to have PayPal back now.
2. - They have unofficial forums at mynetbux.com.
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anon @ 16th May 09:41AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
you can try this site
»www.netbux-owned.6x.to
They have an online script for netbux and paypup. It means you dont have to do anything accept running that script. It save and cant be detected.
So check it out
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JoeStrummer @ 16th May 04:51PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I heard about the Netbux program awhile ago, and it did seem quite fishy, so I went to go find out it's legitemacy. I was quite convinced it was legit, when I stumbled across here. Now I too would like to find out if Netbux is a scam. I'm planning on joining, and trying it out. I also had an interesting idea. Why not try to contact the founders? See what they have to say in defense. Just a thought.
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i386 @ 16th May 06:20PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Hmm, not sure how to contact the founders. I will look.
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anon @ 17th May 07:12AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
...??
i already try to cantact the admin but until now still not receive reply...!!
almost one month...:(
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JoeStrummer @ 17th May 07:44PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Yeah, I e-mailed them right after I posted that. No reply yet.
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codezeromind @ 17th May 08:26PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
well u guys get an actual report saying if its legit or not by waiting for an official report from the Better Business Bureau, they do reports on companies
Netbux
»www.jacksonville.bbb.org/common.···23554450
For example of one report is one on cashfiesta.com
»www.goldengatebbb.org/commonrepo···id=35786
Main BBB site to search the companies
»search.bbb.org/search.html
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Karl Bode @ 18th May 03:40PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Well, my short blurb on it is now number one on Google as intended. Hopefully that does someone some good:
»www.google.com/search?client=saf···oe=UTF-8
(Actually number one for "netbux & Paypup"
Number two for Netbux, number one result for Paypup.)
Astounding in how I've had to clear out the story's comment sections from little parasites who've been spamming it with the very affiliate spam the story says is a scam....
I'll never get over how many human rats infest the Net.
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pstation @ 18th May 07:16PM:
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Heh, seems that the 15th, they day they were supposed to get paid has gone by, but yet not one person has been paid and the owner is no where to be found, why am i not surprised at all?
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Kip patterson @ 18th May 07:20PM:
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Us old guys know about Snipe hunts. All it takes is as many burlap bags as you have suckers.
Once you've been on one Snipe hunt, you won't fall for scams like this.
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anon @ 18th May 10:26PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
How come 6 of my buddies got payed =p. twice =p. I saw cheque too so I have no comment. My eyes wont lie :D. One of em jus got 86 bux thats the highest but hey. Even though they dont invest and nor do I.. its still a good way to get good cash. In terms of business plan.. You guys might just be out of date =p
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i386 @ 18th May 10:27PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by AdrianaLisa:
How come 6 of my buddies got payed =p. twice =p. I saw cheque too so I have no comment.
Prove it. It'll be a scam until someone proves it. And I have no proof of it yet (and all the rest of the community). So it's a scam.
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i386 @ 18th May 10:30PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Okay, it's a scam. Their owners do not reply. I e-mailed quite a few days ago if not weeks. I was going to interview the founders, and post it here to see what they must do in defense of this site.
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anon @ 18th May 11:20PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
The guy above is probably working for them.
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anon @ 18th May 11:22PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Sorry about that,misread the forum.
Anyway, I am glad I found this,I will share it with my friends.
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anon @ 19th May 01:10AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Hey guys.. I saw that some people have been coming to my site from this thread so i decided to stop by and take a look.
I was suprised to find a discussion on whether or not I owned netbux.. or if arron and I were the same person...
My name is Tim Core (aka tiggz, aka mrcore) and I have nothing to do with netbux other than being an upset member. (haven't been payed yet)
CHPLaptops.com is going to be a site a lot like ezlaptop.com but it will work. We are going to be backed not only by membership fees but advertising and PTC/PTS Programs as well.. so we will have enough money to buy the laptops and make a profit.
There are 3 founders... Me, Aaron, and a guy named Mihai
once we get our site up and running ( we're having a lot of issues with our codes and we want everything to work before we open for members)
If you have anyother questions please visit our forums
»www.chplaptops.com/forums
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removed @ 19th May 01:12AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I guess your boy Aaron hasn't been paid either. Go figure.
He wasted $1 on my stupid account.
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anon @ 19th May 11:27AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
well we are all still waiting to see if it is a scam or not.. the die hards still do their searches but everyone else has prettymuch stopped.. and I know alot of people have filed claims with paypal to get their money that they paid for referrals.. myself included.
I bought 100 refs.. 24 days ago that were never added to my account.
I'll be getting that money back in 7 more days.
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Karl Bode @ 19th May 11:36AM:
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well we are all still waiting to see if it is a scam or not..
I'll save you some time: it is.
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Mordy @ 19th May 02:20PM:
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Here is what I think has happened: A few people may have been paid (to give the appearance of legitimacy) and to allow the word to spread, but now that victims are starting to bite en mass, the money has stopped flowing out (except perhaps to those who are working as shills to lure victims). The scammers are changing the rules on a regular basis to keep as many people on the hook for as long as possible without paying anything out.
IMO - Those that are just clicking, you will not get any money. Those that have paid for referrals - you gave money to scammers, and you will not see any money back.
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pstation @ 19th May 03:15PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
If anyone cares to contact chad, try giving (386) 867-0711 a call. It's the number he has listed for another one of his domains, xull.org. Seemed to be another site that guaranteed a 150% return on an investment within 10 days. I guess he came up with a way to grow gold :uhh:
»www.talkgold.com/forum/r14155-.html
»www.talkgold.com/forum/r14132-.html
(xull and chadf are the same person)
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i386 @ 19th May 03:21PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
what an idiot! I think I'm going to go give that number a call right now...
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anon @ 20th May 05:18PM:
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anon @ 20th May 05:47PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Netbux has changed rules today.
It says now, that ppl will be payed depending on how much money the advertisers pay. It makes more sense...
Yet, I am subcribed.. I have nothing to lose, i didnt buy anything from there, and have referrals (friends that joined). I do a lot of searches on net, I dont mind doing it through Netbux, until i reach 75$ (u only get paid when reaching $75 now), and see if im going to see any money.
I have seen screenshot of ppl that have received money from PayPal, and have friends that said it worked for them (but I have not seen it).
If i dont get paid, ill just stop using it, I am happy i didnt waste money or time.
(Taj Mahal Scripts dont works anymore... maybe Netbux.org has found it... ?)
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anon @ 22nd May 03:23PM:
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Well I beg to differ.. many people have now been paid
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anon @ 22nd May 06:33PM:
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removed @ 22nd May 06:53PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Your previous post here was deleted because it had the referral URL. Don't you get the freaking point?
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i386 @ 22nd May 07:02PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Don't use that ref link, use this:
»www.ibux.net/?r=NOREFERRAL_STUPID_SPAMMERS
[That's an invalid referral link. Might work, but nobody gets credited]
I just did a hey mod on your message. (I think I did it on his last message, too)
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anon @ 22nd May 11:18PM:
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»pts-proof.cjb.net
Enjoy, from netbux.. to stormpay.
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i386 @ 23rd May 05:09PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by Superman124:
»pts-proof.cjb.net
Enjoy, from netbux.. to stormpay.
It's bullshit. How would Netbux pay $489.96 (or something) to someone for doing searches? It looks faked. It'd take off a long time to get paid that much.
(To see that total bullshit, and not see the CJB thing: »img268.echo.cx/img268/2654/proof···t6sx.jpg)
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Falcon15 @ 29th May 04:35PM:
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I just came across netbux, and I can't tell whether or not it's a scam. So far, I've heard mixed reviews, but it doesn't seem like i'de have anything to loose if I signed up for it. I havn't heard enough success stories to be convinced yet though. If anyone has any success stories, I'de suggest posting them. Just a thought.
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anon @ 30th May 12:11PM:
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Nice try Netbux shills! MLM schemes are and always will be scams except for the very few at the top. Get over it and get jobs those who keep shilling this posts with their lies. SCAM = SCAM = SCAM
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Karl Bode @ 30th May 04:41PM:
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get jobs
Worth repeating.
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salahx @ 30th May 09:00PM:
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The big problem with these kinds of referral/affiliate schemes is it encourages spam. Thus we all wind up with even MORE advertisements in our e-mail, boards, or anywhere else they can think of to add another "referral", while the ones at the core of the scheme can claim "plausible deniability" from their out-of-control affiliates, point to their ToS against spam (which is just a thinly-veiled reason to withhold payment.)
If there were a DMCA equivalent to CAN SPAM, their activities would be "vicarious infringement" - they make money off the spamming of others. There probably SHOULD be a law again "contributory" and "vicarious" spamming (although given the effectiveness of the current one, it wouldn't mean much).
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kyle2227 @ 30th May 10:02PM:
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not a scam heres proof
»www.netbux.ca/stormpay-screen-low-res.jpg
»www.netbux.ca/netbux-after-storm···-res.jpg
»img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/···bux2.jpg
»img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/···bux3.jpg
»img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/···bux1.jpg
»img230.echo.cx/img230/5086/netbux1165lo.jpg
»img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/E···ayed.jpg
»img200.echo.cx/img200/5369/netbu···19nw.jpg
»img200.echo.cx/img200/6629/netbu···23dj.jpg
»img200.echo.cx/img200/75/netbuxpaid35oi.jpg
»img260.echo.cx/img260/9789/igotpaid3oy.jpg
»www.runeblades.com/ec/netbux/net···ment.jpg
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pstation @ 30th May 11:12PM:
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Those screen shots don't proove much of any thing, many scams and schemes such as this started out paying initially before collapsing. The pure economics of it just simply don't add up, advertising pays no where near the $.04 they are promising to give out.
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anon @ 31st May 02:02AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
»mynetbux.com/showthread.php?t=4105
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anon @ 31st May 02:01PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
NETBUX ... definetly a scam. I signed up for it and policies are too shady are not clear enough... meaning that they do not say that you have to install anything... stupid I ended accepting FREAKING spyware :mad:
Now I have an incredible problem... My antivirus keeps saying I have a Trojan Virus, that I have a healed more than 10 times and POP UPS are non stop... AD WARE can't even stop it. :huh:
Has this happened to anyone? How can I take this out of my system?
Have a nice day!
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rzaruba @ 31st May 08:09PM:
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Could you post the photo of the horse you bought with all the money they paid, please?
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i386 @ 31st May 09:40PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by chplaptops.com:
Jordan is also the owner of Pay-pup so you can imagine how much work that alone is but pile on to it a fiancee, young child, a full time job, running a hosting company with close to 100 customers, and then doing the bulk of the PHP coding on this site and you can get an idea of how thin he is spread.
Look what's on that 'chplaptops' site. I keep checking just to hope their site is on 'debut' again. "Jordan is also the owner of Pay-pup". Pay-Pup aka Netbux. They're referring to 'jordan from midifox hosting'. Wasn't that netbux/paypup's first host, per REGEXP(netbux|paypup)scam.com?
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removed @ 1st Jun 02:56AM:
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I wonder how »www.midifox.com/ has close to 100 customers if they haven't even opened yet.
It's looking like midifox is being run off of a reseller account.
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danj3ris @ 1st Jun 07:05AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Quick question, if a company says they will pay you to search, and then you search, and then get paid, was it a scam? Hmmmm.
Another question, if a company says they will pay you to search, and then you search, but then dont get paid, were you scammed? Or did you put your trust in a failed company?
I signed up for NetBux, even "bought" a couple referrals. I know that just by doing that Im already starting with negative profit. I even emailed all my referrals a simple message along the lines of "Hi. I bought you. Lets see if this thing works. I'll show you all the proof if it ever comes." Someone else on this forum signed up and then got a similar email, but didnt take to it too kindly. I believe he said "These Netbux guys blow chunks." I like that. You sign up for a (possible small income), label it a scam probably before you put any effort into it, than mouth off someone else who actually makes contact with you who has put in at least That amount of effort. I guess I blow chunks too. And the people who got paid by Netbux, they're blowing the largest chunks aren't they?
You guys are so eager to point out scams that even if someone takes the time showing you that they got paid, its automatically a "Doctored image", its a fake, or "thats only one person, how about the rest?" Who cares about the rest?? Is every paid Netbux user going to show you, Mr. Skeptic, their check? Their Stormpay balance?
If and when I do get paid, no one here will care. I could give a rat's (posterior) about what you think. I dont have to prove nothing. I'll just be happy with 1 or more small wads of cash I earned by sitting on my (tush) for 30 minutes a day, typing any random word that comes to my mind.
And then I'll blow some chunks with myself.:D
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removed @ 1st Jun 11:23AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by danj3ris:
If and when I do get paid, no one here will care.
You said it best.
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Karl Bode @ 1st Jun 12:13PM:
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If and when I do get paid, no one here will care. I could give a rat's (posterior) about what you think.
Then why are you posting? You should be hard at work being suckered.
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ltrouse @ 1st Jun 02:04PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
When I was in the Navy one of our disbursing clerks had a scam going where he would deduct a dollar from the pay of everyone on the ship and pocket it. In those days most of us got paid in cash and since he was responsible for typing up the pay lists no one noticed a dollar missing. He would just type the correct totals at the bottom of the list so it matched the payroll message and no one bothered to check his math, that is until we had an audit. Now a dollar doesnt seem like much, and to each person it isnt; but this guy was getting a dollar every two weeks from each of 300 400 people, in the early 1980s that was serious money.
Im thinking that this Netbux thing is similar. Whats five dollars? Not much, but when you are getting it from thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people it adds up. The scammers also gain comfort knowing that law enforcement isnt going to jump through too many hoops because a citizen complained about getting ripped off for five dollars.
They could keep this going forever as long as they dont get greedy and stupid. Just keep moving around, changing the name regularly and pay enough people to make it seem legitimate.
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Jason Levine @ 2nd Jun 11:59AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by danj3ris:
Another question, if a company says they will pay you to search, and then you search, but then dont get paid, were you scammed? Or did you put your trust in a failed company?
If the company isn't paying anyone (meaning it's not just a payment glitch) or isn't paying most people (meaning they pay a few people to seed the Internet with "I got paid" stories) then yes you did.
said by danj3ris:
I signed up for NetBux, even "bought" a couple referrals. I know that just by doing that Im already starting with negative profit. I even emailed all my referrals a simple message along the lines of "Hi. I bought you. Lets see if this thing works. I'll show you all the proof if it ever comes." Someone else on this forum signed up and then got a similar email, but didnt take to it too kindly.
Let me get this straight, you pay NetBux to get a list of e-mail addresses. Then you e-mail those people to tell them about the site? You're spamming. What a great racket. They not only don't have to pay for their spam, but they get PAID by people to spam for them. Don't be surprised if people you e-mailed don't like getting NetBux spam from you.
said by danj3ris:
And the people who got paid by Netbux, they're blowing the largest chunks aren't they?
Some people always get paid in Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) schemes. The problem is, most people don't. Under a MLM scheme, you are required to get a certain number of people to buy something before you get paid. Then, those people are each required to get that number of people to buy something before they get paid.
Let's suppose that the "certain number" is five. So John signs up, pays an enrollment fee (some of which is used to pay the members above him in the pyramid) and is promised that he'll get paid if he signs up five people. Fine, he manages to do that. Now those five people need to collectively sign up 25 people. And those 25 people need to collectively sign up 125 people.
Fourteen iterations later, the 1,220,703,125 unpaid members need to sign up 6,103,515,625 members to get paid. Only problem is, there aren't enough people in the world to do this. So Ned, who signed up on the 14th iteration, isn't paid. (Of course, chances are, the scheme would collapse a few iterations earlier.)
You guys are so eager to point out scams that even if someone takes the time showing you that they got paid, its automatically a "Doctored image", its a fake, or "thats only one person, how about the rest?" Who cares about the rest?? Is every paid Netbux user going to show you, Mr. Skeptic, their check? Their Stormpay balance?
Scams can still pay some people. See the above example. John got paid. Yet, Ned wouldn't be. The above example had 305,175,781 people getting paid but 1,220,703,125 not getting paid. So only 20% of the people would have been paid.
You can fiddle with the numbers to change how many iterations the MLM scheme runs before it collapses (require only 3 referrals instead of 5), but it'll still collapse (22nd iteration for 3 referrals).
If and when I do get paid, no one here will care. I could give a rat's (posterior) about what you think.
If you've gotten into the scheme early enough then you might just get paid. Assuming that NetBux is running an "honest" MLM and not looking to cheat people out of payments that are owed to them by the rules of the MLM scheme. From some of the descriptions of their behaviors, I wouldn't trust them to run an "honest" MLM.
But just remember that your getting paid doesn't make it "not a scam" because for every person who was paid, 5 more might not be paid.
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danj3ris @ 3rd Jun 05:40AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Jason, your post is very enlightening. I've been scammed by many a Pyramid scheme and know the deal about how they inherently cannot survive. Of course I had to get in early this time, even though Im thinking someone can join even now, and still be as successful or more than I have the chance to be. But at this point it is the possibility I wont see my money come back to me. Part of the reason I signed up for Netbux is the sheer stupid simplicity behind the logic running the business:
A. It's too easy to be bored on the net, and getting payed to search a random term on a search engine is way too easy a way to get money. You think it's too hard? Open a dictionary to any page.
B. Advertisers must love the idea. Every 15 seconds or so the same person will see another 2 or 3 advertisements blinking with bells and whistles in their faces. But every second there's a hell of alot of people seeing the advertisement. That's a colassal amount of exposure. Plus with the unblockable pop-ups and spyware that each search throws at you??:p
C. With the amount of money NETBUX is raking in through people "buying" other members, and advertisers wanting their ads to be seen by everyone(that it has caused NETBUX to place links on their homepage, along with increase the number of banners viewed from a single search, and implement those HORRID unblockable pop-ups and unders), every member is confident that they make enough money to pay someone 80 cents a day, plus the 80 cents from their referral(s).
D. The fact that there is only one level of referral earnings, is so delightfully simple. None of this 3rd, 4th, 5th level crap which right from the get-go makes you feel like a miniscule turd in space. And you can make back the money you spent "buying" a referral in four 20 minute sessions, of Boredome.
E. You do not have to spend money to get payed. You can do all the searching by yourself. It will take you over two months to see any money however. And because we all know people want money sooner than later, they'll pay. But this one fact that you can start with 0$ and not spend anything to earn profit is extremely enticing.
If the owners of NetBux ran with the money right now, they'd be filthy rich. As it looks, the "scheme" is so mind-bogglingly simple that it will no doubt make the owners money. What can they do to have even more money come in? Charge more for referals. Charge advertisers more. Make advertisers bid for timeslots. Throw a stupid "win a car" drawing. They're on top of the world right now.
Im no fanboy, Im simply stating why Im having trouble seeing this as a scam. Of course Im still waiting to get paid.
Jason, Im interested in your mentioning of "honest" MLM businesses. Any examples and what makes them different from NETBUX type deals?
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Jason Levine @ 3rd Jun 09:13AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
All I meant by an "honest" MLM was one that actually paid its members what they are owed based on the rules of the MLM. This would be in contrast to members being owed money and the money not being paid out. (The quotes around the word honest were to indicate that even MLM that I was calling "honest" aren't legitimate.)
As far as your other points:
said by danj3ris:
A. It's too easy to be bored on the net, and getting payed to search a random term on a search engine is way too easy a way to get money. You think it's too hard? Open a dictionary to any page.
It is quite easy to search. It's just a matter of whether those searches will really turn into cash for the searchers.
said by danj3ris:
B. Advertisers must love the idea. Every 15 seconds or so the same person will see another 2 or 3 advertisements blinking with bells and whistles in their faces. But every second there's a hell of alot of people seeing the advertisement. That's a colassal amount of exposure. Plus with the unblockable pop-ups and spyware that each search throws at you??:p
Actually, advertisers love the idea of a person clicking on their ad. They wouldn't like someone whose sole purpose is to search who isn't paying attention to the ad. Most ad companies pay on a Per Click basis versus a Per View basis. So if you let 10 ads load up but you don't click any, then NetBux wouldn't be paid anything.
said by danj3ris:
C. With the amount of money NETBUX is raking in through people "buying" other members, and advertisers wanting their ads to be seen by everyone(that it has caused NETBUX to place links on their homepage, along with increase the number of banners viewed from a single search, and implement those HORRID unblockable pop-ups and unders), every member is confident that they make enough money to pay someone 80 cents a day, plus the 80 cents from their referral(s).
Ads don't "rake in" much money at all. Netbuxscam.com reveals that NetBux is selling ads at a rate of $29 for 75,000 impressions, or $0.0003 per search. So if you were to view five ads per search and make one search every 15 seconds (giving time for each page to load) for eight straight hours, NetBux would earn $0.58. That's much less than the 80 cents per day that they would be paying you.
said by danj3ris:
D. The fact that there is only one level of referral earnings, is so delightfully simple. None of this 3rd, 4th, 5th level crap which right from the get-go makes you feel like a miniscule turd in space. And you can make back the money you spent "buying" a referral in four 20 minute sessions, of Boredome.
The question is twofold though. First of all, will you actually get paid by NetBux. Secondly, will NetBux be able to earn enough via ads to keep running and making payouts. The answer to #1 is a bit fuzzy at the moment, but based on their past behavior (wiping out referral links when new users signed up, removing their forums to keep members from talking to one another, violating Google's AdSense policies, etc) I wouldn't trust them. As for #2, the math just doesn't ad up.
If you're already in the MLM, you can either a) cut your losses and run now, or b) keep at it and hope that you're high enough in the pyramid to get paid before the whole thing collapses (and that NetBux will actually send out payments that it owes its members).
said by danj3ris:
E. You do not have to spend money to get payed. You can do all the searching by yourself. It will take you over two months to see any money however. And because we all know people want money sooner than later, they'll pay. But this one fact that you can start with 0$ and not spend anything to earn profit is extremely enticing.
They won't pay simply because people will want money sooner than later. They can also run this scam for a few months, get as much money from people/advertisers as they can, and then disappear. Then they just lie low for a few months until the NetBux uproar calms down before opening their next scam. You'd be surprised how many of the people who got scammed by NetBux would come back to participate in the next scheme.
said by danj3ris:
If the owners of NetBux ran with the money right now, they'd be filthy rich.
And you wouldn't get paid anything. So all that searching would be for nothing.
said by danj3ris:
As it looks, the "scheme" is so mind-bogglingly simple that it will no doubt make the owners money.
Simple doesn't always equal profitable. Pyramid schemes are often simple. Here's one off the top of my head. You pay $5 to join the "BBR Profit Club." You then need to sign up five people (each paying $5). They, in turn, sign up 5 people each. You get paid $500 and you're out of the club (but can sign back in at any time).
Sounds so simple and it's a quick way to turn $5 into $500, right? Well, the problem is that more and more people will be required to pay off the members. In fact, after only 14 iterations, the number of people required will exceed the population of the earth.
said by danj3ris:
Im no fanboy, Im simply stating why Im having trouble seeing this as a scam. Of course Im still waiting to get paid.
It's a scam because it is a MLM scheme. Every MLM scheme is a scam. It's just a matter of when it collapses, how many people get suckered in, and how many people get in early enough to get paid.
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pstation @ 6th Jun 12:10PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Looks like the inevitable has finally happened. Site has not been working for 6 days, many users haven't been paid and not a word from the owner of this site in over a week now. I'm sure many that have bought advertising and "unreferred" users have been burned from this scam.
edit: fixed typo
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Karl Bode @ 6th Jun 12:12PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
That is absolutely shocking. SHOCKING!
I'm sure our friends will be here shortly to admit they were wrong and that there's no such thing as easy money.
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i386 @ 6th Jun 03:52PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Yup it's down.
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Mordy @ 6th Jun 03:52PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
No wait...that can't be true...didn't they pay out billyuns and billyuns? I am so disappointed and surprised at this unexpected turn of events.
/sarcasm
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pstation @ 6th Jun 04:32PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by Karl Bode:
I'm sure our friends will be here shortly to admit they were wrong and that there's no such thing as easy money.
no worries, I'm sure they'll be back to defend netbux, and spam links for whatever the next scam they get suckered into is
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anon @ 7th Jun 01:31AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I had this re-directed for a little referral catching I was doing.. anyways i've talked to a few people on IRC that have gotten paid etc etc.. The below link is a screenshot hosted at www.imageshack.us re-directed by www.cjb.net , enjoy and please stop hating on netbux!
»pts-proof.cjb.net
Regards, Isaea
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i386 @ 7th Jun 01:34AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by pstation:
no worries, I'm sure they'll be back to defend netbux, and spam links for whatever the next scam they get suckered into isp
said by Isaea:
I had this re-directed for a little referral catching I was doing.. anyways i've talked to a few people on IRC that have gotten paid etc etc.. The below link is a screenshot hosted at www.imageshack.us re-directed by www.cjb.net , enjoy and please stop hating on netbux!
»pts-proof.cjb.net
Regards, Isaea
It seems like they're starting now.
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pstation @ 7th Jun 04:37AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by i386:
It seems like they're starting now.
yep..it never fails. amazing how people think that just because a few people claim to have been paid that its totally 100% legit.
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Karl Bode @ 7th Jun 11:48AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
quote:
It seems like they're starting now.
It really is a type of mental illness I think. Not entirely unlike those old ladies who buy everything they see on the home shopping networks and wind up with an apartment stuffed with light up Santas still in the boxes....
It's a mental disease to repeatedly get conned into thinking that you can make money for doing essentially nothing. Then there's a nice heaping teaspoon of denial on top....
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Jason Levine @ 7th Jun 12:24PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Some people are always looking for the quick buck. Then there's a certain amount of "mental investment" people make as they get further and further into the scam. They can either 1) admit that they've been scammed and lose all hope of regaining their losses, or 2) hold onto any shred of hope (no matter how tenuous) that the scam will pay off. There's a group of people who will choose #2 each time even if choosing #1 means less money lost.
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i386 @ 7th Jun 01:37PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
paypup is pay-pup2.com
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i386 @ 7th Jun 01:51PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
oh... and, Netbux is back up. So it didn't really go down.
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i386 @ 7th Jun 05:37PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by removed:
I wonder how »www.midifox.com/ has close to 100 customers if they haven't even opened yet.
It's looking like midifox is being run off of a reseller account.
I questioned the guy who made that claim (mrcore). Let's see what he responds with. I wonder if he's going to just come up with some BS?
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removed @ 7th Jun 06:55PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I'd say so..
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i386 @ 7th Jun 06:56PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Yup.
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pstation @ 8th Jun 12:11AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I'm getting an empty directory now when loading netbux.org, so it looks like the owner deleted the files and is now moving along to the next scam of his. »kyrotek.com/ is the company that claimed to own netbux.org.
With more than fifteen years experience in the computer technical field the
people at Kyrotek are devoted to building value not only for our customers, but
also for the communities that our company and our employees call home. We will
work with you to fabricate that ideal PC to fit your everyday needs and desires
with complete warranties, while keeping the cost down to sometimes 50% of
mainstream competition.
Kyrotek also specializes in computer upgrading, on-site local repairs, on-site
network setup, on-site computer/software training & much more. Let Kyrotek be
your personal gateway into the world of technology.
Kyrotek – Your Technical Solution. Located in Lake City, Florida. On-site service
is welcome to all Central Florida, North Florida and South Georgia residents!
Computer fabrication, repairs and sales are available to anyone in the United
States.
But yet, "Kyrotek" is not even a real registered company.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 12:33AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
That will be an AWFUL one. I sure do hope he doesn't scam people out of $600+.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 12:34AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Who knows an incorporation search? I would like to look up "Kyrotek". They claim to be an incorporation. A search on Google for an inc. search shows nothing good.
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removed @ 8th Jun 01:25AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
You'd have to look everywhere. They may be in Florida, but they don't have to be registered there to be incorporated. Delaware and Nevada are some of the more popular places since it's easier/cheaper in those areas.
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i386 @ 8th Jun 01:35AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
ah.
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danj3ris @ 9th Jun 06:01AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
C'mon Karl, a mental illness? To repeatedly get conned? That sounds more like someone with a great deal of trust in the human race (something you seem to lack) whose actions eventually reveal bad judgement. And then you speak as if "we" will eventually return to say you were right, like "we","they","them" are some kind of mindless hoard of hell-bent zombies who want nothing more than to make money with minimal effort. Im not a Zombie, I have no mental illness. I know this sounds like a crazy idea, but what is the point of having money if you dont use it? I just happen to take risks with my money. Some risks have payed off, some have not.
Again it seems that a majority of the people on this thread are so focused on labeling something a scam that the second there is the slightest sign of trouble, you all jump at it like its gold. The fact is, people who put some effort into these risks do not "Jump" headfirst into what they know can turn out bad.
In my first post I said I could give a rat's posterior about what you all think. Well why should I when everyone has a biased view on the matter? NETbux is a scam before and after people get money for doing exactly what the website said one should do to get money.
And because I know that someone providing proof of payment does little to sway your opinion on whether Netbux is a scam or not, I suggest you find your own proof. I'd give you my referral link to get you started but of course my post would be deleted.
Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p
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Karl Bode @ 9th Jun 09:09AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
quote:
C'mon Karl, a mental illness?
Yes. Look at you here, trying to justify being swindled by another MLM to a bunch of strangers.
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removed @ 9th Jun 06:06PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by danj3ris:
Hey Removed, Its my understanding you are already a member. Why dont you give out your link? Good luck to you fellow Netbux member!:p
It's your understanding? Please. You make it sound like you had to ask people or do research. The third reply to this thread was me telling everyone about my netbux experience.
I thought it was at least worth looking at, but then that ass clown bought my account and decided to harass me.
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i386 @ 9th Jun 06:11PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Netbux has an 'under construction' page. Kyrotek Media doesn't have the PC page anymore -- it's now a link to netbux again.
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pstation @ 10th Jun 04:27PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Someone that bought unreferred users via stormpay received this message when attempting to file a claim:
quote:
Closed by StormPay
10 Jun 2005 10:56 Hello Netbux Investors:
On behalf of StormPay, Inc., I wish to bring you up to date on our efforts to communicate with Mr. Chad French in regard to his recent transaction with you. We have directed multiple e-mail and telephone communications to Mr. French in order to ascertain the specific facts and circumstances as to why his website is no longer available and why he has failed and refused to communicate with us and you regarding the pending claim you have asserted against him. Obviously, without any recent or direct communication with Mr. French it is impossible to determine what his future intent is in regard to following through with the commitments he has made to you.
Your request to be reimbursed has been forwarded to our Risk Management team for review. If fraudulent activity is found Mr. French will be sanctioned and suspended from transacting any further business through StormPay. Unfortunately, at this time there are no funds available within Mr. Frenchs StormPay account to pay out to you on your claim. He has long since withdrawn the funds that were being held in his StormPay account.
If any funds are recovered from Mr. French, your StormPay account will be reimbursed. Rest assured that we are doing everything within our powers to recover these funds including contacting the authorities if necessary.
We regret these circumstances but urge you not to allow this situation to deter you in your future on-line transacting. We strive to make StormPay the safest and securest on-line payment processing system available. If we are successful in recovering funds we will make direct contact with you.
As with programs of this type, as the buyer you must carefully consider the statements and representations of the merchant before investing. You must determine what is a promise or guarantee as opposed to what is an anticipated result given a certain set of variable facts and circumstances. You must determine how reasonable and likely those anticipated results are before you determine to spend your money.
With all that being said, we truly regret these circumstances and will keep you advised on developments as they occur. Of course, we still hold out hope that Mr. French will soon get his site back up and running and make good on the promises and representations he has made. For these reasons we will have to close your claim at this time.
The funny thing is that some people still don't think it's a scam in spite of this.
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i386 @ 13th Jun 08:49PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Netbux now redirects to another site, searchoodles.com.
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anon @ 13th Jun 10:36PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Netbux scamed you dont get scamed again
Chad P French and Tiffany L French
Chad P French owns all rights over the netbux scripts, that are used by netbux, search-pay, pay-pup, pay-pup2, ibux,
and moneyjet
addresses
removed
phone numbers
removed
domains owned by Chad P French Officially
usellco.com
acflb.org
kyrotek.com
netbux.org
xull.org
kinx.org
searchoodles.com
domains that dont admit there owned by Chad P French (NO WHOIS INFO MEANS THEY WILL SCAM YOU TOO) SAME SCRIPT = SAME GUY
search-pay.com
moneyjet.net
pay-pup.com
pay-pup2.com
ibux.net
Lapiter.com
and finally email addresses to contact him at
chad@acflb.org
request@usellco.com
support@usellco.com
contact@kyrotek.com
admin@netbux.org
There are more find them yourself
and Dont get scamed again by him
Chad saying no more netbux
»www.gptresources.com/showthread.php?t=7525
Mod edit: The addresses and phone numbers were removed since there isn't any public sources listed. Republishing information already public is OK, but not without verified sources.
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removed @ 14th Jun 12:31AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Here's the address:
5122 Sw 47th Loop
Lake Butler, FL 32054
And his PO Box:
Route 3 Box 1550
Lake Butler, FL 32054
Here's the phone numbers:
386-496-9693
386-867-0711
Note to the mods: All of this info was acquired using public sources. Please do not delete.
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pstation @ 14th Jun 01:50AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
quote:
I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several reasons.
First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by filing a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot generate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true because before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your account from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many disputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the account was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).
My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it forwards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even listening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with other internet projects.
The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under another dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real requests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. And I had just made a deal with the host about adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwed by them as well.
Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of service that people may find to be helpful.
If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 95% of the funds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky enough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.
If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. With all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that derived from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.
Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like it is without Netbux in the first place.
If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mail contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.
owner of netbux posted that...
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i386 @ 14th Jun 02:13PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Translation:
I, along with others who maintain Netbux decided to discontinue the service for several re
*asons.
First off, if you ever purchased referrals, you should be able to get your money back by f
*iling a claim through PayPal or StormPay. Both of the accounts are frozen so we cannot gen
*erate a refund for you. However, I've noticed that a few have contacted StormPay and they
*have stated that there are no funds in the Netbux StormPay account. This is not true becau
*se before it was suspended/frozen, there were thousands. I haven't been able to withdrawal
* any funds in weeks because you cannot withdrawal funds if you have a dispute on your acco
*unt from someone who purchased from you. And there was always at least one dispute on the
*account at all times. Honestly, I believe they froze the account because of way too many d
*isputes and they probably didn't want to keep up with the referral payments that the accou
*nt was earning (which was over 15,000 referrals).
My phone is set to "do not disturb" until I am able to get it changed. If you call, it for
*wards to voicemail and then your message is erased at the end of the day without even list
*ening to it. I'm sorry that I cannot talk with you, but I am simply way too busy with othe
*r internet projects.
The few days before I put up the "under construction" notice, the server was not under ano
*ther dos attack like some of you may be thinking. It was actually overloaded with real req
*uests. Simply put, Netbux got too popular, too fast. Because I am a scammer and don't want
* to be caught, I cannot continue this service. And I had just made a deal with the host ab
*out adding another server with some load balancing hardware but I was inadvertently screwe
*d by them as well.
Netbux.org now forwards to Searchoodles.com until I can figure out what to do with it. Re-
*make a new netbux with new visions and a better structure? No, I don't think so. I think I
* will build on the idea of combining the big search engines out there into some sort of se
*rvice that people may find to be helpful.
If you think that I've benefited from this whole program at all, you're wrong. 2% of the f
*unds earned through Netbux were either frozen through PayPal (over $30,000) because we are
* scammers or StormPay (over $10,000) or they were paid out to the members who were lucky e
*nough to get a payment throughout all the ongoing chaos we were under.
If you look at the bright side, Netbux sparked a new revolution of earning money online. W
*ith all the new services like Netbux that have sprouted and all the new services that deri
*ved from a similar Netbux structure all seem to have promise.
Also, let's be honest... This fine community (gptresources.com) wouldn't be thriving like
*it is without Netbux in the first place.
If you have some ideas for searchoodles.com and possibly what it can be turned into, e-mai
*l contact@searchoodles.com and I will be happy to exchange thoughts.
(*) WARNING 9 long line(s) split
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etoast66 @ 14th Jun 05:08PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Why do all of these scams have a Chad, a Tiffany and are based in Florida? See »Antispamcard.com Information Collection
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ltrouse @ 15th Jun 08:20AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Im not sure about the Chad and Tiffany thing, but I think the reason they are based in Florida is due to our property laws. If a person gets sued there are a lot of assets that cant be touched. Thats why OJ moved here.
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i386 @ 15th Jun 08:25PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Anyone know where to get free background checks?
Chad French
Lake Butler, FL 32054
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i386 @ 21st Jun 03:40AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Anyway, chadf has been banned from the mynetbux site, which they linked to.
Good for him, he's a scammer. Also his 'church' is 'temporarily unavailable', acflb.org.
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Mordy @ 28th Jun 06:49PM:
(topic move) Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
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The post that was here, and all followups to it, were moved to a new topic .. »www.igotscammed.com
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i386 @ 3rd Jul 12:52AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Pay-Pup now has "new ownership". I think it is Jordan Anders (from Midifox Hosting), just changing his name.
Jordan is a *HUGE* scammer. I would advise caution to anyone thinking about using his hosting company (Midifox).
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i386 @ 5th Jul 12:44AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I am assuming this "church" ("Anchor Christian Fellowship of Lake Butler" aka "ACFLB") is fake, just here to play with our minds. Anyone know more about this "church" that Chad P. French has?
I have a little more information about him that I can give. He is a 20-year-old residing in Lake Butler, FL. On "MyNetbux," they are planning a lawsuit and already have a lawyer.
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i386 @ 6th Jul 03:25PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I think I've found some more e-mails to contact Chad French at. It looks like he may have 2 Gmail accounts.
chadfrench@gmail.com
chad.french@gmail.com
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i386 @ 8th Jul 07:07AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
From the looks of it here, it looks like Chad P. French (the owner of Netbux) also owns Midifox Hosting.
Jordan Anders = Owner of Midifox Hosting = Owner of Pay-Pup = Chad P. French
Be sure to avoid these guys, there's enough evidence here!
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anon @ 10th Jul 04:37AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
looks like pay-pup has fucked off with my cash.
did not even have 1 payout with them and i bought like 10 referals.
why dont I listen when people say scam?
because of all the other morons shouting this is great I been paid once, now im gonna buy a shit loada refs and then they bugger off.
If you got deceived, submit full details of the Web Site details information with your e-payment confirmation and file a complaint email to the followings to alert the relevant authorities of the Internet Fraud:
1. Internet Fraud Coordinator: ifcc.tp@fbi.gov.
2. International Web Police: Director@Web-Police.org.
3. ISP Provider; abuse@........ (refer to Step One, search the abuse email contact of ISP Provider /and IP Address belongs to
and complaint of web site Network abuse).
4. Locate authority (refer to web Registrant station address, search on Internet to locate of country authority; such as address/state police or (country) government authority.
5. E-gold Service & CC to Web Site Owner.
The Authority information sites for 1, 2 & 3 are:
»www.web-police.org/
»www.ifccfbi.gov/
»www.scamwatch.com/
»www.fraud.org/
hope that helps guys, make sure everyone reports these jerk offs:D
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removed @ 10th Jul 04:40AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by securitysam:
why dont I listen when people say scam?
Greed. Everyone wants to make some easy money. Unfortunately, sometimes the deal is so good that one ignores the little voice(s) that say(s) "don't do this, you idiot. It's a scam."
This is - unfortunately - why so many get burned by 419 scams. (and, well, other scams)
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i386 @ 10th Jul 05:45AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
If you want money, look into getting a job that pays some money every hour. It's better than sitting at your computer all day doing searches or clicking links.
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anon @ 10th Jul 02:50PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Heh, bloodyhell.... I never thought of getting a job. :o
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i386 @ 12th Jul 06:04PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?
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i386 @ 18th Jul 06:11PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
I think some pictures of Chad French are here (not that it matters):
url removed
That is his personal site.
mod note: I took a look; even though someone else had previously said this was a Chad French site, there is no evidence linking him to this site.
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removed @ 18th Jul 11:01PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
said by i386:
Not to mention, wasn't the referral system illegal?
How so?
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pstation @ 3rd Aug 01:26AM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
»free.hostultra.com/~windozeuser/romn125.html - interesting convo with the owner of paypup...
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i386 @ 3rd Aug 01:48PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
One day, he has 180 "audits" to do. Next day, he has 300 "audits" to do.
Scam. Just like Netbux. Notice how it's down now (pay-pup2.com)?
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i386 @ 3rd Aug 01:52PM:
Re: Pay-Pup and Netbux Scams
This is like that "MAKE $500 TO READ AN E-MAIL!!!" scam.
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