Australia Filters Even Dumber Upon Closer Inspection - As plan gets increasingly expensive...
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wentlanc @ 8th Jun 08:54AM:
Holy ROI!!
$90k per site!!! That is a ridiculous cost! Isn't technology supposed to help reduce cost?
cw
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Desdinova @ 8th Jun 09:07AM:
Hmmm...
"...the Australian government has admitted they have no real criteria set as to what constitutes trial success or failure."
Seems to me that the criteria defining "failure" might be draconian efforts that do more to piss off end users and create an illusion of safety amongst the Truly Deluded and Hysterical than actually, ya know, doing anything useful.
And every time I hear someone cry "think of the children!" I'm never sure if they're against or FOR child pornography...
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cornelius785 @ 8th Jun 09:44AM:
Re: Holy ROI!!
i'm pretty the cost is all up front for an unlimited amount of blocked sites, but since they are only block X sites, it comes out to be ~$90,000.
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cornelius785 @ 8th Jun 09:49AM:
Re: Hmmm...
I take that as not matter what happens, some politicians will spin it as a complete success. I have a feeling that proxy usage will sky rocket.
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cabana @ 8th Jun 10:23AM:
Re: Hmmm...
I hear that there are these new fangled devices called parents/guardians...
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Mr Matt @ 8th Jun 10:55AM:
Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
:o Australia is more like Socialist State. I just learned some important facts about Australia.
1) All land is owned by the government and is rented to property owners.
2) If a person applies for Australian citizenship and transfers their life savings into the country the government limits the amount of money they can transfer back out if they are dissatisfied with what they find there and decide to return to their country of origin.
I ran into a couple that thought they wanted to become Australian Citizens. Things were fine when they arrived. When they found they did not like the government policies and decided to go back to the USA they were told they could leave but must leave their money in Australia in an Australian Bank.
Why would one expect a government with those policies to allow an open Internet. The Australian government wants to maintain the outer limits of government control by controlling all that is seen and heard on the Internet in Australia.
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axus @ 8th Jun 10:57AM:
Australia was the world leader in internet filtering
China was shocked that they'd fallen behind a democracy, so they introduced their new filtering software requirement. I wonder what Australia will do to keep up in this escalating censorship race?
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Sammer @ 8th Jun 11:23AM:
Re: Hmmm...
said by Desdinova :
And every time I hear someone cry "think of the children!" I'm never sure if they're against or FOR child pornography...
"Of course, it's worth noting that as part of the admission that the list has such a small percentage of what was supposed to make up the entire list, the Australian government says that it's having the police look into the leak of the list." As long as the list is secret it's a sure bet that the list is more about government tyranny and abuse than it is about the children.
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RadioDoc @ 8th Jun 12:25PM:
Re: Hmmm...
said by Desdinova :
"...the Australian government has admitted they have no real criteria set as to what constitutes trial success or failure."
Looks like they've been taking lessons from the US military brass...
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RadioDoc @ 8th Jun 12:31PM:
Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
said by Mr Matt :
1) All land is owned by the government and is rented to property owners.
We've effectively got the same thing here. Try not paying your property taxes (aka "land rent") and see how long the government waits before you are removed from the property.
said by Mr Matt :
2) If a person applies for Australian citizenship and transfers their life savings into the country the government limits the amount of money they can transfer back out if they are dissatisfied with what they find there and decide to return to their country of origin.
Again, see how fast and easily mere citizens can transfer money out of this country.
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KrK @ 8th Jun 01:13PM:
Re: Hmmm...
said by cabana :
I hear that there are these new fangled devices called parents/guardians...
Really? Did they have them on display at E3 or something? I haven't heard of those applications yet.... Are they available for beta testing or trial period?
:D
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KrK @ 8th Jun 01:20PM:
Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
said by Mr Matt :
1) All land is owned by the government and is rented to property owners
Where'd you read that?
My understanding is Australia has "Freehold" (private land) and "Crown lands" (Public lands.)
Yes, it is possible in Australia for some land to be privately owned leased Crown land. But this isn't all of it. It's only a small part of it. Most land is privately owned.
Or so I understand.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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Jigsaw @ 8th Jun 01:36PM:
Re: Australia was the world leader in internet filtering
said by axus :
China was shocked that they'd fallen behind a democracy, so they introduced their new filtering software requirement. I wonder what Australia will do to keep up in this escalating censorship race?
Re-education...
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"It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."-George Carlin
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nixen @ 8th Jun 06:51PM:
That Can't Be a Real Government Program
I mean, governments never go into big, expensive programs without setting adequate requirements or success criteria. :uhh:
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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bombadill @ 8th Jun 09:03PM:
Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
Hey KrK; thanks for a bit of support. :)
The bulk of the land mass of the continent is freehold. Only The Australian Capitol Territory (Canberra the seat of Government) and some other designated lands are "Crown" land such as Defence bases.
For 99.9 percent of us when we buy a block of land it's ours, NOT leased. We can buy and sell as we see fit. :D
And as far as Democracy goes, I'll take our version above any other on the face of this globe. England is tottering in a swill of political corruption that would never be tolerated here; Europe is a mess politically.
The African continent and South America I just can't fathom the depth of corruption and the grinding poverty when there's no need for it. :huh:
Give me Ozz any day. ;)
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FunnyBones @ 9th Jun 01:55AM:
Re: Hmmm...
said by KrK :said by cabana :
I hear that there are these new fangled devices called parents/guardians...
Really? Did they have them on display at E3 or something? I haven't heard of those applications yet.... Are they available for beta testing or trial period?
:D
Don't worry your trial period will expire. :D
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KrK @ 9th Jun 03:10AM:
Re: Hmmm...
Indeed :D
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NormanS @ 9th Jun 03:45AM:
Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
said by bombadill :
Give me Ozz any day. ;)
I'm not keen on the Parliamentary process, or the gun control, of Oz.
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bombadill @ 9th Jun 06:09AM:
Re: Don't consider Australia a Democracy!
NormanS; not disagreeing with you really, but as I see it my comments would be as follows;
Gun Control First.
Can, I admit be a right pain sometimes. :( But as a Pistol and Rifle Club Armourer (Gun Dealer), Sports Pistol Coach, and Range Safety Officer I can say with some confidence that my 9mm Taurus, Taurus .357 and Colt Pocket Lightning are fairly well used, as is my selection of rifles, in particular the Kentucky Musket. :D
Parliamentary System.
We have 3 levels of Government.
Shire/City/County Local Government. Having been a Town Councillor for nearly 8 years and a Deputy Town Mayor I think I know how that works, quite well actually. The usual Greenie Councillor, 3 or 4 farmers and a couple of local businessmen on the 9 member Council. All voted in by over 85% of the voting age population.
State Government. New South Wales, my State has an upper and lower house of Parliamentarians. All voted in. Two major political parties. Labour (the workers’ party) and Liberal (the white collar/business end of town)
Federal Government the same again.
EVERY person of age HAS to vote. So no real evidence of Tammany Hall style politics or ward heeling etc.
OK. So we have the odd venal politician, the odd dud one too, and the useless ones also. :huh: But on the whole I really can’t complain about rampant corruption, malfeasance on a grand scale or bribery etc.
I’m happy with my lot on the whole.
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