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Canadians Take Heed Of Harvard Broadband Study
Mirror U.S. policy, get same mediocre results...
08:34AM Monday Oct 19 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: competition · business · world · Bell Sympatico · TekSavvy Solutions Inc.
Tipped by Dustyn
Last week an FCC-commissioned report confirmed what most everybody but the FCC already knew thanks to countless other studies -- that United States broadband is a middle of the road performer, in part thanks to having no real broadband plan. Canadians are now taking note of the study as well, as it highlighted how Canada is lagging behind other industrialized countries in broadband speed, price and coverage. Of course none of this is particularly surprising when you note how Canada seems to have been mirroring the last decade of U.S. broadband policy -- which basically consists of a well-lobbied regulator doing whatever the wealthiest carriers tells them to do.

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TKJunkMail @ 19th Oct 08:49AM:
Universal Service of broadband in our future?

From the linked story:
»www.canada.com/technology/Canada···ory.html
Finland officials announced Thursday that the country will now guarantee all citizens be legally entitled to a minimum broadband connection speed of one megabit per second.

It's the first country in the world to make universal minimum Internet access speeds a legal requirement.
Can we call this the "Welfare tier"? Even if you can't pay, you get broadband. Is this coming to the US?
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milnoc @ 19th Oct 09:31AM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

said by TKJunkMail :

Can we call this the "Welfare tier"? Even if you can't pay, you get broadband. Is this coming to the US?
There's no way they'll consider universal Internet access as a benefit to their society. They're more likely to see it as a socialist conspiracy, just like universal health care.
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anon @ 19th Oct 09:52AM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

finland guarantees 320 gigabytes per month to each user. That's the throughput on 1mbit/s.
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nasadude @ 19th Oct 09:46AM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

we must be ever vigilant that some poor or struggling person or family doesn't get anything for free or reduced price. that's a waste of resources and socialism.

it's OK though if it's a large multinational corporation that contributes to congressional campaigns.
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n2jtx @ 19th Oct 09:53AM:
CRTC

Having family in Canada I am well aware of the nonsense the Canadians go through. It amazes me at how non-transparent the CRTC is when it comes to giving the incumbents everything they want. At least the FCC goes through the pretense of looking out for the consumers before telling them to bend over. In Canada, the citizens don't even get the courtesy of a "bend over".

My sister has Rogers internet at home and they are always having to watch the meter to make sure they do not go over. With a family of six, they have to limit themselves to approximately 2GB/day in order to keep from going over. Granted some providers here in the U.S. have caps but most of them are pretty generous.
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Ignite @ 19th Oct 09:58AM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

said by TKJunkMail :

From the linked story:
»www.canada.com/technology/Canada···ory.html
Finland officials announced Thursday that the country will now guarantee all citizens be legally entitled to a minimum broadband connection speed of one megabit per second.

It's the first country in the world to make universal minimum Internet access speeds a legal requirement.
Can we call this the "Welfare tier"? Even if you can't pay, you get broadband. Is this coming to the US?
Giving the pissing and moaning about the far more essential and humane universal health care I think you're quite safe from this happening in the USA.

Call it what you want, well done Finland for wanting to do this and improve the lives of their citizens.
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El Quintron @ 19th Oct 10:22AM:
Canada the opposite of Finland

Insert Yakov Smirnoff accent here:

In Canada government creates regulation to help business screw you!

edit for clarity
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zod5000 @ 19th Oct 11:28AM:
Lack of competition?

Canada has the same problem as the USA. There's two ways to wire broadband into every home. Via Phone Lines (DSL) and via CABLE (DOSCIS).

A Duopoloy doesn't really breed competition. So both ISP's seem to follow compete to decrease service instead of increase its (caps, throttling etc...).

The CRTC tried to make some competition with 3rd party ISP vendors. Those vendors rely on the original 2's infrastructure, and the CRTC doesn't protect them from that.

No new ISP is going to be able to lay down fibre or what not in an established city and turn a profit.

I think were stuck until wireless technology improves to the point where you no longer need to wire a city to compete.
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Ignite @ 19th Oct 12:37PM:
Let's See If Canada Really Do Take Heed...

... or under the direction of the industry staffed regulator just carry on taking it in the hindmost from the cableco/ILEC cartel's tacit collusion to protect profits and video revenues.
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beatsnpieces @ 19th Oct 01:10PM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

It's also much easier to guarantee internet to 5.5 million people than it is to 300 million people.
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chronoss2009 @ 19th Oct 01:50PM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

i posted this what 4 days ago
haha and you will never see it in western world until finish and swedes and the rest of the world gets so tech past us that there welfare cases are more educated
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jjeffeory @ 19th Oct 06:01PM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

Interesting perspective. I didn't think of it as such. We've been round and round in the original article, so no need to repeat my opinion here.
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jjeffeory @ 19th Oct 06:05PM:
Re: Lack of competition?

Problem is that it's mostly the establish wired companies who have the money and licenses to deploy wireless. We pretty much end up with the same players in the wireless sector as we do in the wired sector.
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jjeffeory @ 19th Oct 06:07PM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

**maybe**

300 million worth of revenue is more than 5.5 million worth of revenue. So, it's possibly no difference. I think population density is a more determining factor than number of people. We have to look at this from several angles, don't ya know...
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zachary1 @ 19th Oct 07:32PM:
Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future?

It's called political will. Get some.
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