Charter Promotion Promises 65 Inch HDTV, Delivers 19 Inch - From the people who brought you $71,500 broadband for life....
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mrchris @ 9th Jul 11:44AM:
Lies
Don't promote such expensive equipment if you cannot find the prize first!
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Rob @ 9th Jul 11:46AM:
Mind Boggling..
The fact that some SAP at Charter thought that sending a 19" instead of the 65" would be "ok" is insulting.
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Nightfall @ 9th Jul 11:50AM:
A slam dunk
If he was awarded the grand prize, it should be VERY easy to collect.
1. Print the webpage with the contest rules and prize information.
2. Take them to court.
3. Profit!
I am not doubting the validity of the article or this person, but I would like to see some proof before I pass judgement.
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DoRight @ 9th Jul 11:50AM:
Re: Mind Boggling..
I have a 19".. Ummmm... Yea I'll take the 65" anyday..What. Thats about a $2000 difference??
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Smith6612 @ 9th Jul 11:51AM:
haha...
How unfortunate is that? That TV is smaller than BOTH of the LCD monitors on my gaming computer!
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BinaryXtreme @ 9th Jul 11:53AM:
Re: A slam dunk
Absolutely Night fall. Out right fraud. Any attorney will take this case for free just for the media. In and out case, plantiff wins.
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Rob @ 9th Jul 11:54AM:
Re: A slam dunk
said by Nightfall :
If he was awarded the grand prize, it should be VERY easy to collect.
1. Print the webpage with the contest rules and prize information.
2. Take them to court.
3. Profit!
I am not doubting the validity of the article or this person, but I would like to see some proof before I pass judgement.
And then he to sell his 65" TV to pay for the legal costs. :D
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wahoospa @ 9th Jul 11:55AM:
Fraud
Is this what is called fraud? And I thought fraud was a felony.
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taar @ 9th Jul 12:01PM:
It cant be true....
This story HAS to be a misprint. No way in hell would anyone at Charter think they would get away with such nonsense....
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morbo @ 9th Jul 12:01PM:
charter....ugh
Charter consistently disappoints.
I cannot fathom how any company or employee would think that downgrading the tv size offered is a good idea. Besides the negative press, it's just so wrong.
edit: possible that someone in the prize department got greedy? imagine they wanted the 60" tv for themselves, thought the prize winner would be grateful for anything. Still, there's a huge difference here.
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avd706 @ 9th Jul 12:01PM:
I bet
Not knowing the facts of this case, I bet there is an out in the fine print of the contest rules.
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tommy13v @ 9th Jul 12:02PM:
Maybe not?
He may not have been the grand prize winner. Read the comments on the story over there.
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KrK @ 9th Jul 12:02PM:
Re: Lies
Ummmm..... "We can't afford a 65" TV for our Father's Day Grand Prize"....
I'd say they have no right being in business then, lying to people and such. That is some sorry crap right there..... Since marketing or whoever screwed up, they should just pay the man.
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Margolis @ 9th Jul 12:14PM:
Re: Maybe not?
this has already been shot down. This person was not the winner. Just a sore loser trying to make charter look bad. The big tv and service was awarded, as were several other prizes to other people.
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Margolis @ 9th Jul 12:14PM:
Re: A slam dunk
said by BinaryXtreme :
Absolutely Night fall. Out right fraud. Any attorney will take this case for free just for the media. In and out case, plantiff wins.
no attorney will take it because it's not true. this person was not the winner, plain and simple
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BinaryXtreme @ 9th Jul 12:18PM:
Re: Fraud
Fraud is a felony.
"The intentional distortion of the truth"
That is a quote of legal definition of fraud. I guarantee you if you quit your Charter service and you gave them back a cheap piece of crap DVR box, not the one they gave you, you would be charged with, FRAUD! What the hell is the difference if they do it?
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jeffster1970 @ 9th Jul 12:21PM:
Re: Maybe not?
I don't think so either. Seems like a dad that had gone through chemo was the grand prize winner. Research!!
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ender7074 @ 9th Jul 12:22PM:
Re: It cant be true....
Having worked there for several years and knowing the type of execs they hire there I can honestly say that yes, someone there would think this is ok. The level of incompetence in the corporate office is astounding. They have no clue.
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Rick @ 9th Jul 12:29PM:
Pffffft....
If you think that dudes pissed..what about ME?
Comcast promised me a 83 x 25 Foot 10 million pixel hd set for Fathers day and now I come to find out...
THEY KEPT IT FOR THEMSELVES!!
Man..I'll tell you..you just can't trust these cable companies these days!
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AZ_OGM @ 9th Jul 12:34PM:
A 19" TV is better than no TV
At least he didn't get screwed over like the Hooter's waitress who won a "toy yoda" instead of a Toyota.
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danclan @ 9th Jul 12:40PM:
Re: Lies
42+19=61
looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised. :)
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KrK @ 9th Jul 12:44PM:
Re: Maybe not?
So are they just lying? Or is this one of those deals where a marketing guy messed up and Charter decided there was a better prize "deserving" Dad out there and changed their award?
*Update* Full story comes out. See posts above.
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King P @ 9th Jul 12:47PM:
Re: Lies
That's exactly what I thought too.
42+19=61, no?
*edit* beat me to it :P
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KrK @ 9th Jul 12:48PM:
Re: Maybe not?
said by Margolis :
this has already been shot down. This person was not the winner. Just a sore loser trying to make charter look bad. The big tv and service was awarded, as were several other prizes to other people.
Charter basically admitted their marketing screwed up. The family wasn't lying, or being "sore losers" as you put it, it was a screwup by Charter, someone else won the TV, but they did contact this family saying they'd won.
So, they sent them a 42" and a 19" HDTV as a way of "Consolation" prizes and apologized for the mix-up.
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jester121 @ 9th Jul 12:51PM:
Re: Fraud
Pretty sure they'll just charge your account several hundred dollars; I don't think even Karl can find a story about a cable company filing criminal charges against a customer for failing to return equipment.
:uhh:
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en102 @ 9th Jul 12:52PM:
Re: Pffffft....
What... isn't AT&T trying to bribe you off their ranting/blogging by giving you an HD and Uverse service. :p
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scavio @ 9th Jul 12:58PM:
Re: A 19" TV is better than no TV
You mean the one who sued and ended up getting a real Toyota?
»www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200···yoda.htm
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Rick @ 9th Jul 12:58PM:
Re: Pffffft....
said by en102 :
What... isn't AT&T trying to bribe you off their ranting/blogging by giving you an HD and Uverse service. :p
They already sent me it.
»www.darkecho.com/JohnShirley/tveye.html
Needless to say, I was more impressed with comcast's offering instead. :D
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Technogeez @ 9th Jul 01:04PM:
Re: A 19" TV is better than no TV
Jeez, some people can't take a joke...
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BinaryXtreme @ 9th Jul 01:08PM:
Now it's true?
So now it's a true story? Funny all the people posting claiming it wasn't true yet the contest winners and Charter have both posted settlement agreements.
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anon @ 9th Jul 01:20PM:
I
All cable tv companies suck! It has always been true. If you can't afford to pay off the winner don't do the contest.
This is just ONE reason Verizon FIOS rule!
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ender7074 @ 9th Jul 01:35PM:
Re: Lies
said by King P :
That's exactly what I thought too.
42+19=61, no?
*edit* beat me to it :P
Me too! :D
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Cogdis @ 9th Jul 01:53PM:
Re: A slam dunk
What do you mean?
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dnoyeB @ 9th Jul 02:31PM:
Re: I bet
There is no out for the bad publicity. The contest was no doubt to generate publicity. Its just stupid to do what they did.
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quatrix @ 9th Jul 03:08PM:
Re: Lies
said by danclan :
42+19=61
looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised. :)
So a 42" TV and a 23" TV together would have the same screen area as a 65" TV? That's some interesting math (geometry).
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quatrix @ 9th Jul 03:10PM:
Re: Fraud
said by jester121 :
Pretty sure they'll just charge your account several hundred dollars; I don't think even Karl can find a story about a cable company filing criminal charges against a customer for failing to return equipment.
Why would he look for a story about a customer doing something wrong? This is an anti-business site.
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Nightfall @ 9th Jul 03:13PM:
Re: A slam dunk
said by Cogdis :
What do you mean?
Just what he said.
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Nightfall @ 9th Jul 03:15PM:
Re: Now it's true?
said by BinaryXtreme :
So now it's a true story? Funny all the people posting claiming it wasn't true yet the contest winners and Charter have both posted settlement agreements.
I have no idea if it was true or not. After hearing the Charter bashing and the fact that the person who won was lying, I don't care anymore.
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KrK @ 9th Jul 03:55PM:
Re: Pffffft....
Well, the good news.... you can be warm and fuzzy with the knowledge that you helped pay for it. :D
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KrK @ 9th Jul 04:02PM:
Re: Now it's true?
said by Nightfall :
I have no idea if it was true or not. After hearing the Charter bashing and the fact that the person who won was lying, I don't care anymore.
They weren't lying. They got the call, told they were the winners. A Comcast marketing weenie somewhere messed up. They weren't the winners, but were told they were. Comcast made it right tho, gave 'em a free 42" and 19" HDTV as a consolation prize.
So it ends well.
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Nightfall @ 9th Jul 04:05PM:
Re: Now it's true?
said by KrK :said by Nightfall :
I have no idea if it was true or not. After hearing the Charter bashing and the fact that the person who won was lying, I don't care anymore.
They weren't lying. They got the call, told they were the winners. A Comcast marketing weenie somewhere messed up. They weren't the winners, but were told they were. Comcast made it right tho, gave 'em a free 42" and 19" HDTV as a consolation prize.
So it ends well.
Told they were winners, but there was speculation that they were consolation winners which means that they were entitled to that 19 inch TV. There was too much drawing to conclusions in this and no real hard facts to back anything up. Still, as you said, it all ended well. :)
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EPS @ 9th Jul 04:11PM:
Re: I
Er, FiOS is a great product, but Verizon hasn't done great distributing free TVs either...
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mobbo @ 9th Jul 04:22PM:
Re: It cant be true....
Yes, this can happen with Charter. They couldn't even put the correct FEED on the correct CHANNEL... even after being told several times about the issue.
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anon @ 9th Jul 04:57PM:
Were is the list of winners?
I went to the news link and read the article but at the end it gives a link to see the contest winners? I have tried the link but it goes no where? »www.charter.com/HDdad
Guess we cannot see the winners? If I was a runner up I would like to see the list. I mean if someone else got a better prize for the same prize qualification then they 2 would deserve that prize? Not a lawyer but it would seem so?
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BinaryXtreme @ 9th Jul 05:21PM:
Re: Now it's true?
so....um...you drew your own conclusion which was wrong so....you stated it was fake, so...? Practice what you preach.
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KrK @ 9th Jul 05:41PM:
Re: Now it's true?
Right. The speculation is that they were consolation winners, but the marketing guy messed up and told them they'd won the grand prize. It's ok tho, both sides are happy now.
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dvd536 @ 9th Jul 05:46PM:
Re: Lies
said by King P :
That's exactly what I thought too.
42+19=61, no?
*edit* beat me to it :P
its that "new math"
Why doesn't this surprise me.
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HFB1217 @ 9th Jul 05:52PM:
Re: Were is the list of winners?
said by huckleberry1 :I went to the news link and read the article but at the end it gives a link to see the contest winners? I have tried the link but it goes no where? »
www.charter.com/HDdadGuess we cannot see the winners? If I was a runner up I would like to see the list. I mean if someone else got a better prize for the same prize qualification then they 2 would deserve that prize? Not a lawyer but it would seem so?
The Link works fine and there is a list of winners with the entry stories as well.
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Guspaz @ 9th Jul 06:10PM:
Re: Lies
65 diagonal = 57x32 = 1824" square
50 diagonal = 44x25 = 1100" square
42 diagonal = 37x21 = 777" square
26 diagonal = 23x13 = 199" square
19 diagonal = 17x9 = 153" square
So to get the equivalent surface area, assuming a 42" screen, you'd need to add a 50".
Alternatively, you could have 2x42" and 1x26".
The bigger the TV, the more surface area another inch adds.
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BF69 @ 9th Jul 06:36PM:
Re: It cant be true....
said by taar :
This story HAS to be a misprint. No way in hell would anyone at Charter think they would get away with such nonsense....
really?
"Charter also recently ran a promotion offering broadband for life (the winner paid $71,500), though some fine print buried in the promotion rules allows Charter completely off the hook should the debt-riddled company be sold within three years."
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Cheese @ 9th Jul 06:49PM:
Re: Pffffft....
said by KrK :
Well, the good news.... you can be warm and fuzzy with the knowledge that you helped pay for it. :D
OT, but I read the developer of the building paid for it...not Comcast.
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Anonymous_ @ 9th Jul 07:28PM:
Re: Pffffft....
said by Rick :
If you think that dudes pissed..what about ME?
Comcast promised me a 83 x 25 Foot 10 million pixel hd set for Fathers day and now I come to find out...
THEY KEPT IT FOR THEMSELVES!!
Man..I'll tell you..you just can't trust these cable companies these days!
:D
;)
that TV looks like crap with the BIG holes in it
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Anonymous_ @ 9th Jul 07:30PM:
Re: Lies
said by dvd536 :said by King P :
That's exactly what I thought too.
42+19=61, no?
*edit* beat me to it :P
its that "new math"
Why doesn't this surprise me.
no it's 65" if they are counting the cabient size like they do with CRT's monitors
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jeffster1970 @ 9th Jul 09:28PM:
Re: Maybe not?
said by KrK :said by Margolis :
So, they sent them a 42" and a 19" HDTV as a way of "Consolation" prizes and apologized for the mix-up.
Not bad for a consolation prize, a 42" and 19", wonder if it would have been cheaper, though, to send them a projector?? It probably would be less then those two HDTV's, and since projectors do in "feet" and not "inches", it would have been one happy dad!
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anon @ 9th Jul 09:53PM:
Fraud
In order to sue for fraud, one has to PROVE a company actually committed fraud. If it's an honest mistake like a typo or some technology challenged bimbo at the office made a boo boo than all the company has to do is claim that's what happened. At the most a judge will make the company make 'reasonable' restitution like free service, a bigger TV (in this case) or a cash value of the original item. And if a law suite occured the company would appeal and it would drag on and on so the most reasonable thing to do is accept the settlement and just cancel your service if you hate them that much
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CMoore2004 @ 9th Jul 09:58PM:
Re: Lies
Last I knew, they don't count the cabinet size with CRT monitors. Some people get confused because they don't realize the measurement is a diagonal measurement, but I've never seen cabinet size come into play.
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Anonymous_ @ 10th Jul 02:15AM:
Re: Lies
they say 19"
but viewable is only 18"
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cork1958 @ 10th Jul 08:14AM:
Re: Lies
said by KrK :
Ummmm..... "We can't afford a 65" TV for our Father's Day Grand Prize"....
I'd say they have no right being in business then, lying to people and such. That is some sorry crap right there..... Since marketing or whoever screwed up, they should just pay the man.
Replies should've ended right after this comment, as should've Charter, for that matter, plain and simple.
Although I have been very satisfied with Charter in my area, this is simply BS!! Here's one time I wouldn't mind seeing some part of the government, whether local, state, or federal, step in and shut them down just for this obviously blatant false advertising.
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gabeman @ 10th Jul 10:29AM:
Re: Lies
said by danclan :
looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised. :)
That's what she said.
Sorry, couldn't resist
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anon @ 10th Jul 11:48AM:
Customer Happy
see the update Charter satisfied customer and appoligised for miscommunication
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Ahrenl @ 10th Jul 01:25PM:
Re: Lies
#1 post in this thread.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back though, it didn't take much.
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furlonium @ 12th Jul 02:09PM:
Re: Lies
said by danclan :
42+19=61
looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised. :)
That's what she said. :o
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anon @ 13th Jul 10:40AM:
Charter Promotion Promises 65 Inch HDTV, Delivers 19 Inch
Olevia makes a 65 inch HDTV for about $4,500. Could've sent him that. Charter didn't state the brand name.
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