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Matt @ 26th Nov 09:30AM:
People still use Azureus?
People still use Azureus? Is there any compelling reason to use it over uTorrent?
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adisor19 @ 26th Nov 09:34AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by Matt :
People still use Azureus? Is there any compelling reason to use it over uTorrent?
You're joking, right ?
Azureus/Vuze is the best torrent client out there in terms of features hands down. If you configure it properly no other client can come close to it in terms of speed especially on a non Windows platform.
Adi
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Combat Chuck @ 26th Nov 09:35AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
yes, I use it. With mainline DHT plugin I have yet to meet a seemingly dead torrent I couldn't pull in.
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MysticGogeta @ 26th Nov 09:37AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
I never liked Azuresus, perhaps because I have a windows machine. uTorrent does a hell of a job on my machine.
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Matt @ 26th Nov 09:39AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by adisor19 :said by Matt :
People still use Azureus? Is there any compelling reason to use it over uTorrent?
You're joking, right ?
Azureus/Vuze is the best torrent client out there in terms of features hands down. If you configure it properly no other client can come close to it in terms of speed especially on a non Windows platform.
Adi
A Java application will never be as fast or lightweight as a native app.
Azureus = 9.3MB
uTorrent = 263KB
Maybe for non-Windows users it's the best (all the Linux torrent clients I've used are pretty terrible) but for Windows it's bloated and slow. I haven't seen a peer using Azureus in ages.
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adisor19 @ 26th Nov 09:43AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by Matt :said by adisor19 :said by Matt :
People still use Azureus? Is there any compelling reason to use it over uTorrent?
You're joking, right ?
Azureus/Vuze is the best torrent client out there in terms of features hands down. If you configure it properly no other client can come close to it in terms of speed especially on a non Windows platform.
Adi
A Java application will never be as fast or lightweight as a native app.
Azureus = 9.3MB
uTorrent = 263KB
Maybe for non-Windows users it's the best (all the Linux torrent clients I've used are pretty terrible) but for Windows it's bloated and slow. I haven't seen a peer using Azureus in ages.
Actually you'd be surprised. I'm not saying it's lightweight, cause i know full well it's not. But if you configure it properly(and patch TCP/IP since you're using winblows) and if you make sure DHT tracker is enabled, you're gonna get faster speeds then uTorrent guaranteed.
Adi
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major marco @ 26th Nov 09:44AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by MysticGogeta :
uTorrent does a hell of a job on my machine.
When it's not being throttled by your ISP. Same here.
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jacour @ 26th Nov 10:03AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
Azureus is by far the most popular client. I am presently connected to a large swarm and I just counted up the active connections by client type:
Azureus 74
BitLord 38
BitComet 22
uTorrent 2
and 22 connections from 8 other client types. That means Azureus accounts for 47% of all users out there, and I think this swarm is fairly typical.
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swhx7 @ 26th Nov 10:16AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
How many of those are the pre-sellout v.2.5, and how many are the later Vuze/Azureus?
Many users don't trust versions released after the maker got in bed with the Hollywood cartel.
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dadkins @ 26th Nov 10:25AM:
New plugin?
Cool!
I have tried all BT clients, Vuze wins. Lite, non-java, meh!
I can bury my connection and it always just works!
On XP and Vista! :p
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iansltx @ 26th Nov 10:39AM:
Meh Vuze...
Vuze/Azureus is nice but isn't "light" by any stretch of the imagination. If I just want to grab a torrent and be done with it, I use Transmission on Mac OS, uTorrent on PC. Both have performance that's quite nice...on private-tracker both can give me a full 8 Mbit/s from my cable connection...
Vuze seems okay, but there's way too much there...the download UI is obscured by the content store...
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adisor19 @ 26th Nov 11:02AM:
Re: Meh Vuze...
said by iansltx :
Vuze/Azureus is nice but isn't "light" by any stretch of the imagination. If I just want to grab a torrent and be done with it, I use Transmission on Mac OS, uTorrent on PC. Both have performance that's quite nice...on private-tracker both can give me a full 8 Mbit/s from my cable connection...
Vuze seems okay, but there's way too much there...the download UI is obscured by the content store...
Transmission is OK for you ?! oh wow, that thing is dog slow no matter what i tried. Azureus trounces it when it comes to speed on OS X.
Adi
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openbox9 @ 26th Nov 12:17PM:
Re: Meh Vuze...
Transmission is fairly light and lean and does a good job in Leopard. I haven't used Azureus in a year or two, but the last time I fired it up, it was a resource hog. Granted, Azureus is more configurable, but Transmission "just works" IMO.
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jacour @ 26th Nov 12:59PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
Virtually all have version numbers after 2.5. At least 50% of the Vuze clients are on the current release, and most of the rest are Version 3.XX.
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perfidy47 @ 26th Nov 01:52PM:
Re: Meh Vuze...
I have run a side by side comparison with vuze vs utorrent. Azureus connects to more peers, more quickly and d/l speeds are faster. This was on a 3.5 gb torrent. Opened in both clients simultaneously. If you configure azureus correctly, you will ALWAYS get 2-8 time the swarm average speed. I get on a torrent and I see the swarm avg is 100kbps and laugh maniacally while my speed is 800kbps-1MBps. I have used azureus since it was in beta. For my friends with older comps or who aren't very technical, I give em utorrent. I'm stuck on a 3yr old toshiba sat. pro laptop, 1gb ram, 1.6 pentium M on xp pro. I get no slow downs lock ups ANYTHING while running vuze, firefox with like 15 tabs open, winamp on shuffle and dvd-decrpter ripping/burning all at once. The ONLY reason to use u-torrent over azureus is if a: you have an older machine or b: you are not technically inclined about software in general(specifically in the areas of networking) Even then azureus wiki is ur friend. AZUREUS IS THE KING OF ALL BT CLIENTS HANDS DOWN!!! ;) :D :p
OH and I use the NEWS plugin and it works like a charm. Oh and I'm on comcast so you know I get an alert from the plugin every night when I'm running multiple torrents LOL
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perfidy47 @ 26th Nov 01:57PM:
Re: Meh Vuze...
said by iansltx :
Vuze/Azureus is nice but isn't "light" by any stretch of the imagination. If I just want to grab a torrent and be done with it, I use Transmission on Mac OS, uTorrent on PC. Both have performance that's quite nice...on private-tracker both can give me a full 8 Mbit/s from my cable connection...
Vuze seems okay, but there's way too much there...the download UI is obscured by the content store...
There is an option in vuze to switch to the classic advanced UI....don't knock vuze before you even fully explore all features and learn to configure it properly....
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Nanoprobe @ 26th Nov 03:13PM:
Re: Meh Vuze...
^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^
I especially like the plugins that are available.
I do also use utorrent but only on my laptop.
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Mannus @ 26th Nov 03:24PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by Combat Chuck :
yes, I use it. With mainline DHT plugin I have yet to meet a seemingly dead torrent I couldn't pull in.
+1. I recently installed the ONO plugin and have noticed an at least 30% increase in my d/l speeds. I currently average 500-600 Kb/s per torrent and some go as high as 1.3-1.8 Mb/s. Course having 15/2 un-throttled FiOS helps too. The graph show what is roughly 95% torrent(anime) traffic.
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Mannus @ 26th Nov 03:33PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
Here's an example
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Transmaster @ 26th Nov 05:04PM:
Vuze
NASA has some of their larger programs available via bit-torrent and they suggest Vuze too download them. I regularly get downloads at 400kbps, and I have been as high a 700kbps. If Vuze is good enough for NASA it is good enough for me. :D
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Combat Chuck @ 26th Nov 05:13PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
It's not lightweight but it's very good at grabbing data.
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lemonade @ 26th Nov 05:18PM:
Vuze is pretty good for me
i have tried quite a lot of BT client, like the official one, ABC, bitcomet, azureus, utorrent, bittornado...
Right now i stick with Vuze, main reason is that i "think" it is fast, and offers lots of plugin, like i can see the connected peers' geographic location by using their IP head, Network Status Monitor (i like participate these kind of research and help), oh yeah forgot the Safepeer plugin.
Speed wise i think it's pretty fast, as some people above said, i usually have a download speed about 2x to 3x the average swarm speed, lots of option to customize, i think way more than many power users' needs. Compare to other BT client?
Okay this i cannot say Vuze is always faster, the reason is i find it's pretty hard to quantitatively study speed issue, 1st thing it's really to create a controlled environment in a BT world.
Resources wise, yes it definitely use more memory than utorrent, but not sure about CPU usage. Hey come on guys, lots of computer have more than 1 Gig of ram these days, lot of people are using 2GIG +. so 100- 200 MB of ram usage is not that much.
Just my 2 cent. :)
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Matt @ 26th Nov 08:46PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by adisor19 :
Actually you'd be surprised. I'm not saying it's lightweight, cause i know full well it's not. But if you configure it properly(and patch TCP/IP since you're using winblows) and if you make sure DHT tracker is enabled, you're gonna get faster speeds then uTorrent guaranteed.
Adi
uTorrent supports DHT, so I doubt that's true. Unless you are referring to the DHT plugin that allows you to force DHT even when the tracker turns it off?
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perfidy47 @ 26th Nov 10:32PM:
Re: Vuze
said by Transmaster :
NASA has some of their larger programs available via bit-torrent and they suggest Vuze too download them. I regularly get downloads at 400kbps, and I have been as high a 700kbps. If Vuze is good enough for NASA it is good enough for me. :D
+1
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iansltx @ 26th Nov 10:49PM:
Re: Vuze
Interesting, but then why do seedbox companies offer uTorrent rather than Vuze? Just throwing that out there...
By the way, uTorrent is now available for the Mac, in beta. Switching over in short order...
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perfidy47 @ 26th Nov 11:11PM:
Re: Vuze
said by iansltx :
Interesting, but then why do seedbox companies offer uTorrent rather than Vuze? Just throwing that out there...
By the way, uTorrent is now available for the Mac, in beta. Switching over in short order...
so they can save money and run the seed boxes on cheap machines that have less cpu/ram They don't care how well the seeding performs or how efficient it is just that its doing the bare minimum you paid for which is to seed! IF I were running a seedbox company it'd be vuze all the way
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DooD @ 27th Nov 06:20AM:
Well..
I haven't tried uTorrent but I've been using Azureus for a long time. And while I don't like the Vuze thing, I switch to the classic UI like someone earlier mentioned. The main reason I stick with Vuze/Azureus is the simple HTTP control. I'm often at work or out and think of something I want and just pull it up on my phone (I love my touch diamond!) and send it to Azureus to download.
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geowil @ 27th Nov 11:42AM:
i use azureus, its the best BTP out there
i use windows, so I dont see how using windows and azureus will result in low speeds.
Out of all of the programs (including the official BT dler) I have use, Azure is the fastest by far. I have ad dl speeds of 3.7 megs, not much higher then that though.
my usual speeds vary from 350 kbps to 1.8 mbps. if the seeders are there in full force it can get up to 2 to 4 mbps.
One time, and only one time, it exceeded 5.6 mbps for a few minutes.
this is total download speed for multiple files. File-by-File basis, the max I have seen is 940 to 1200 kbps.
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iansltx @ 27th Nov 01:35PM:
Re: Vuze
Okay, so uTorrent is king on efficiency, with Transmission a close second. Whereas Vuze is speed king...
Interesting though, that BitTorrent bought uTorrent and based their mainline client on uTorrent...
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funchords @ 27th Nov 02:17PM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by swhx7 :
How many of those are the pre-sellout v.2.5, and how many are the later Vuze/Azureus?
Many users don't trust versions released after the maker got in bed with the Hollywood cartel.
They're still open source, and Hollywood doesn't really need to crawl into the code to see what's happening on the P2P networks (regardless of client), they're pretty open too.
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Aozora @ 29th Nov 11:18AM:
Re: People still use Azureus?
said by Matt :said by adisor19 :said by Matt :
People still use Azureus? Is there any compelling reason to use it over uTorrent?
You're joking, right ?
Azureus/Vuze is the best torrent client out there in terms of features hands down. If you configure it properly no other client can come close to it in terms of speed especially on a non Windows platform.
Adi
A Java application will never be as fast or lightweight as a native app.
Azureus = 9.3MB
uTorrent = 263KB
Maybe for non-Windows users it's the best (all the Linux torrent clients I've used are pretty terrible) but for Windows it's bloated and slow. I haven't seen a peer using Azureus in ages.
Fast how exactly? Torrent speeds? Torrent speeds are definitely fast on Vuze or older Azureus versions.
It might not start instantly, it takes about 3 seconds to actually launch and get to the program because it is Java, but all the great features it has makes up for it. uTorrent is not bad by any stretch but last time I checked it lacked features.
For anyone with a computer over 1GB of RAM it definitely is fine.
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