Netflix Streaming Coming To PS3 In November - No longer just an XBox 360 exclusive...
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kapil @ 26th Oct 12:55PM:
Wii?
Aw Come On. PS3 before Wii?
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 12:59PM:
And from what I've read, no dumb fee
X360 requires a $50/yr XBL gold subscription in addition to the normal Netflix monthly fee.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 01:01PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
$50 year won't break the bank.
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R4M0N @ 26th Oct 01:05PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Neither will those "un-fees" on phone bills, but no one likes them either. This will be great for those who already have Netflix and a PS3 and those who love to watch movies and were thinking about getting a Netflix account.
I personally find the PSN more than adequate for my movie-watching lifestyle. But the more options the better.
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NOCMan @ 26th Oct 01:06PM:
Not Exclusive, Tivo's had it for awhile, and now BlockBuster
streaming is good on Tivo :)
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kapil @ 26th Oct 01:07PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
I agree. But, to be fair, the fee does include more than just Netflix streaming.
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Karl Bode @ 26th Oct 01:07PM:
Re: Not Exclusive, Tivo's had it for awhile, and now BlockBuster
Well, to game consoles.
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R4M0N @ 26th Oct 01:10PM:
What I would kill to have on the PS3...
I would love to have an HD tuner add-on to turn the PS3 into a DVR.... That would pretty much make the PS3 indispensable to any digital home.
I find myself using it more for it's media features than gaming... I don't game as much as I used to back in the day.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 01:11PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by R4M0N :
Neither will those "un-fees" on phone bills, but no one likes them either. This will be great for those who already have Netflix and a PS3 and those who love to watch movies and were thinking about getting a Netflix account.
I personally find the PSN more than adequate for my movie-watching lifestyle. But the more options the better.
Right. Would free be better? Sure. But I spend more than $50 in coffee a month and get less. :)
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ender7074 @ 26th Oct 01:20PM:
Finally!
Sweeeeeeet! I'm tired of lugging my 360 from room to room to get netflix streaming. I cant wait for this!
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Hazy Arc @ 26th Oct 01:22PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Right...because that $50 subscription to Xbox Live gives you nothing else but a Netflix subscription. :uhh:
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ogar @ 26th Oct 01:25PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
The 50$ a year also includes alot more then just the ability to utilize a netflix membership. 90% of people who utilize netflix on the 360 will have a GOld membership for gaming.
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chronoss2009 @ 26th Oct 01:26PM:
Who cares form canada
with coming caps and user based billing its NO SALE CAUSE ITS TOO EXPENSIVE
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AstroBoy @ 26th Oct 01:28PM:
Re: Wii?
said by kapil :
Aw Come On. PS3 before Wii?
The wii is low-res video only. Why bother?
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AstroBoy @ 26th Oct 01:31PM:
Any extra fees?
Will the PS3 require any other paid services?
PS3 live?
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kapil @ 26th Oct 01:31PM:
Re: Wii?
It can do 480p....which is perfectly sufficient. I would rather have 480p streaming on the wii than no streaming at all.
Also, there's a rumor of a new Wii HD upgrade in the works...
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Vathral @ 26th Oct 01:33PM:
Netflix Noobie
So I've never really taken a look at Netflix and since I just got a PS3 this seems rather awesome.
So is this seriously going to be just 8.99 +tax? I guess I'll wait and see how the queuing stuff works
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amungus @ 26th Oct 01:35PM:
and now I kind of want a PS3!
One thing I don't get is why the app isn't able to be downloaded.
Guess it must take a full system update to integrate it?
Also, I wonder what the quality will be like - if they'll use the Silverlight streams or the (much better quality, IMO) WMV streams... I do know that ps3s can play WM Audio (non-protected I think), so I wonder if they'll just integrate the Microsoft DRM to its existing codecs or if it'll actually be a Silverlight install... If it's the latter, I wonder if it'll look any good on a TV (HD or not).
Either way, cool news for the PS3 :D ...Kind of want one anyway, and this is one more good thing going for it. Would also be nice to not have to pay extra. I personally don't game online with my 360. Half the reason I even got one was for Netflix though, so I've been paying for "gold" membership just to stream movies through it...
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 01:41PM:
Re: Netflix Noobie
said by Vathral :
So I've never really taken a look at Netflix and since I just got a PS3 this seems rather awesome.
So is this seriously going to be just 8.99 +tax? I guess I'll wait and see how the queuing stuff works
That is what we pay for our Netflix account and it works on the 360. It really is a great setup.
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Nsane_iceman @ 26th Oct 01:41PM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
said by R4M0N :
I would love to have an HD tuner add-on to turn the PS3 into a DVR.... That would pretty much make the PS3 indispensable to any digital home.
I find myself using it more for it's media features than gaming... I don't game as much as I used to back in the day.
Somewhere on the Net I have seen a HD USB tuner then a Linux live DVD was ran to display the video.
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cbrigante2 @ 26th Oct 01:46PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ogar :
The 50$ a year also includes alot more then just the ability to utilize a netflix membership. 90% of people who utilize netflix on the 360 will have a GOld membership for gaming.
Actually Gold membership is required for Netflix on Xbox, so 100% would be correct.
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AstroBoy @ 26th Oct 01:47PM:
Re: Wii?
I think 480p is standard def. Maybe DVD quality.
HD starts at 720 however, 1080 is what we want.
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xrobertcmx @ 26th Oct 01:54PM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
Have mine liked to a Linux box running Media tomb and all of my DVD's that have been ripped for the iPod/iPhone play nice. They even look good on my little 26in (720P) television.
I have to say, I had been a bit worried about spending the money on the PS3, but it was worth it.
Blue Ray
Audio/Video/Photo streaming
Haven't tried in a while, but I used to be able to watch Hulu on it.
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Van @ 26th Oct 01:57PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
I have 360 and love it but if I could save $50, I would
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MovieLover76 @ 26th Oct 02:03PM:
Hope it works good
I have a PS3 and Xbox360 and I love the netflix streaming surface on my xbox360, I was using xbox live a lot before netflix came out on xbox360 but since my online gaming has effectively ended, but I just don't have time for it most of the time, if it works equally well on ps3, I might just drop my xbox live account down to silver, since I don't use it really.
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Necronomikro @ 26th Oct 02:06PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
It was worded awkwardly, but, ogar was trying to say that anyone who uses the xbox for streaming would likely already have a Gold membership for gaming, so the netflix is just gravy.
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sapo @ 26th Oct 02:07PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
I think he meant that 90% already had a membership for gaming.
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bionicRod @ 26th Oct 02:08PM:
Re: Not Exclusive, Tivo's had it for awhile, and now BlockBuster
I have a PS3 and a 360. PSN is free, so I don't see the point in paying for a gold membership to Live. I just get the multiplats with multiplayer on PS3. That being said, I also use Tivo to watch my streaming Netflix, I love it!
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sapo @ 26th Oct 02:10PM:
Re: and now I kind of want a PS3!
You should just get that Bluray player with Netflix built in.
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cbrigante2 @ 26th Oct 02:11PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by sapo :
I think he meant that 90% already had a membership for gaming.
Got it. Just making sure it was clear.
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woodward @ 26th Oct 02:15PM:
Dammit.
I broke down, tired of waiting, and bought a Roku just last week.
Ah well.
(ps It works beautifully)
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Skippy25 @ 26th Oct 02:16PM:
Re: Wii?
Yes the only console that isn't even capable of playing a DVD isn't getting streaming right now. Go figure!
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kapil @ 26th Oct 02:18PM:
Re: Wii?
Wait. What? The Wii can't play DVDs. Unless you're running some homebrew stuff. I thought the PS3 can play DVDs, no?
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ender7074 @ 26th Oct 02:27PM:
Re: Wii?
The Wii is perfectly capable of playing DVDs. Nintendo didnt include that in the north american version. Its all software.
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ender7074 @ 26th Oct 02:29PM:
Re: Any extra fees?
No. PlayStation Network is free to use.
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C_ @ 26th Oct 02:31PM:
Re: Dammit.
was planning on breaking down and getting one this weekend but didnt get around to it. :D they have 30 day guarentee so you can just return it
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djdanska @ 26th Oct 02:36PM:
Re: and now I kind of want a PS3!
said by sapo :
You should just get that Bluray player with Netflix built in.
I got one today at best buy for $100. Insignia brand. BD Live and works pretty well for a cheap Bluray.
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 02:36PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Especially when you can get it for only $25 to $30 a year. I'm good until 2012 and I only paid between $25 and $30 a year but getting it when they are on sale.
Just like I only pay $10 to $14 for every 1600 MS points I get. I buy them when they are on sale.
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dagg @ 26th Oct 02:38PM:
yup...
between this and M$ recent lockout of 3rd party storage announcement, the ps3 is looking better and better to me all the time
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 02:40PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by aaronwt :said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Especially when you can get it for only $25 to $30 a year. I'm good until 2012 and I only paid between $25 and $30 a year but getting it when they are on sale.
Just like I only pay $10 to $14 for every 1600 MS points I get. I buy them when they are on sale.
Great arrangement there!
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Koil @ 26th Oct 02:45PM:
Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already....its not directly to the PS3, so you have to have a PC inline, but they've offered this for a long time.
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travelguy @ 26th Oct 02:47PM:
Nice, but not new
It's nice that the PS3 will get Netflix as a semi-native app, but it isn't new. The Playon server works with Netflix quite well.
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 02:52PM:
Re: Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
said by Koil :
Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already....its not directly to the PS3, so you have to have a PC inline, but they've offered this for a long time.
But you can't get it in HD that way.
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C_ @ 26th Oct 02:53PM:
Re: Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
said by Koil :
Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already....its not directly to the PS3, so you have to have a PC inline, but they've offered this for a long time.
playon is crap, its barely worked with netflix the last couple of months and besides netflix streaming to ps3 and wii everything else it does can be done much better with free dlna servers
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R4M0N @ 26th Oct 02:57PM:
The Disc-Process is temporary
They are implementing Netflix into the XMB and will be available as a firmware upgrade. The disc process seems to be just a stop-gap measure to get the process going while the firmware gets tested and QCed...
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insomniac84 @ 26th Oct 03:11PM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
You have a ps3 so it won't help you. But the xbox 360 is a media center extender. So if you have a media center computer the xbox can be used to watch tv in a different room or downloaded videos.
Of course most people probably have the xbox on the same tv as their media center, so the features go unused.
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Nsane_iceman @ 26th Oct 03:12PM:
Don't have to buy a 360 and a PS3 now!
Glad I don't have to buy a 360 (netflix and gears of war) and a PS3 (blu-ray, distributed computing, and games) now!
Might anyway, always love fun new toys tho, but it means the wife gets to spend money too...
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amungus @ 26th Oct 03:15PM:
Re: and now I kind of want a PS3!
Actually not a bad point sapo. ...I'd probably still want a couple games on it though, and it'd be nice to have it as another media extender type device.
Still, a standalone player with netflix built in would also be a very nice thing to have :)
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BF69 @ 26th Oct 03:16PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Well lets see Netlfix ofr free or Netflix for $50 which would I rather have? Sure it won't break the bank, but as the old saying goes a fool and his money. You have to be some serious kind of stupid to pay $50 for something you could get for free.
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BF69 @ 26th Oct 03:19PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Hazy Arc :
Right...because that $50 subscription to Xbox Live gives you nothing else but a Netflix subscription. :uhh:
And PSN is FREE for everything on it. I have not seen anything special about XBL that make is worth $300 over a 6 year period compared to PSN. And that's for ONE XBL gold account.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 03:19PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by BF69 :said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Well lets see Netlfix ofr free or Netflix for $50 which would I rather have? Sure it won't break the bank, but as the old saying goes a fool and his money. You have to be some serious kind of stupid to pay $50 for something you could get for free.
It's not $50 for Netflix. If you find a way to get Netflix for free let me know.
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Van @ 26th Oct 03:21PM:
Re: Don't have to buy a 360 and a PS3 now!
I debated on getting both and did after awhile. I am very happy with my decision
I use the PS3 for Blu-Ray and games
I use the 360 for Live and games
Both have great features, Both are worth their prices
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sapo @ 26th Oct 03:23PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by BF69 :said by Hazy Arc :
Right...because that $50 subscription to Xbox Live gives you nothing else but a Netflix subscription. :uhh:
And PSN is FREE for everything on it. I have not seen anything special about XBL that make is worth $300 over a 6 year period compared to PSN. And that's for ONE XBL gold account.
I wouldn't buy a PS3 to save $50 (I pay $35 to $40 myself). I pay for XBL because of its great gaming community. Simply more gamers at more times.
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BF69 @ 26th Oct 03:23PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by aaronwt :said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Especially when you can get it for only $25 to $30 a year. I'm good until 2012 and I only paid between $25 and $30 a year but getting it when they are on sale.
Just like I only pay $10 to $14 for every 1600 MS points I get. I buy them when they are on sale.
yes yes check everyday for a sale that may happen once every 3 months. Some people like to buy stuff when they want to buy it. Not make it a hobby.
Also you assume everyone is some single loner living in his basement. Even at $25 of you have one account for the parents and they have 3 kids that's 4 XBL gold accounts and that's $100 year even on your bargain hunt. over 6 years that's $600. I could buy 2 more PS3s with that.
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tphillips @ 26th Oct 03:24PM:
Re: Don't have to buy a 360 and a PS3 now!
I use the Roku to stream now. Will move that to the kids game room. I have the PS3 in my command center. Yes now I can stream. Though I was going to have to move the Wii but the PS3 gets the nod first. Good job!!!
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 03:26PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by sapo :said by BF69 :said by Hazy Arc :
Right...because that $50 subscription to Xbox Live gives you nothing else but a Netflix subscription. :uhh:
And PSN is FREE for everything on it. I have not seen anything special about XBL that make is worth $300 over a 6 year period compared to PSN. And that's for ONE XBL gold account.
I wouldn't buy a PS3 to save $50 (I pay $35 to $40 myself). I pay for XBL because of its great gaming community. Simply more gamers at more times.
Exactly. None of my friends have a PS3 so for me it is an easy choice. I started using Live 6 years ago and think it is a great service.
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Hazy Arc @ 26th Oct 03:26PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Actually, it would be around $239. »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···-Product
That being said, if $3.25 a month is too much for you, perhaps gaming isn't an appropriate hobby.
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DabberDan @ 26th Oct 03:26PM:
Re: Who cares form canada
said by chronoss2009 :
with coming caps and user based billing its NO SALE CAUSE ITS TOO EXPENSIVE
Good point. On TSI however, you should have enough room until UBB kicks in. You can buy it on a monthly basis if you wanted too.
I'll be checking into this as it sounds interesting.
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sapo @ 26th Oct 03:35PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
That is a good idea because you will be using those extra PS3s to play with the other people in your household since no one else will be using one. I prefer my highly competitive bigger online gaming crowd.
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tiger72 @ 26th Oct 03:40PM:
Re: Wii?
said by AstroBoy :said by kapil :
Aw Come On. PS3 before Wii?
The wii is low-res video only. Why bother?
Why not? If the processor can handle the task, why not? The Wii is the console that "non-gamers" get, and could easily introduce people to the idea of using their internet connection for more than just email and the occasional porn.
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anon @ 26th Oct 04:02PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Xbox Live for $50/year or PSN for free?
I'd gladly pay the $50 for XBL. Sorry Sony, but PSN just doesn't compare.
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IT Guy @ 26th Oct 03:52PM:
Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
Nice! Hopefully this will force the Play Station Network to re-evaluate their price structure and/or the length of time you have available to view the movies you rent.
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DabberDan @ 26th Oct 03:53PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ptrowski :
Exactly. None of my friends have a PS3 so for me it is an easy choice. I started using Live 6 years ago and think it is a great service.
Same here.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 03:53PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Hazy Arc :
Right...because that $50 subscription to Xbox Live gives you nothing else but a Netflix subscription. :uhh:
Yeah, cause everyone who would stream Netflix wants to pay $50 for online gaming service they won't use in order to do it :uhh:
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 03:55PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Then you can cut me a check. I have no interest in XBL for my X360 but pay for it to get Netflix over my X360. Now I don't have to.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 03:57PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by kapil :
I agree. But, to be fair, the fee does include more than just Netflix streaming.
I don't use online play with my X360 and always thought it silly that Microsoft extort $50/mo from X360 owners who want to use Netflix with the 360. The two services are completely unrelated. If it were $50 and it included say, 2-3 hours of Netflix a month for "free" as a loss leader to get people to sign up for Netflix great. But this is just fleecing of users and it is nice to see Sony isn't going to follow suit.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 03:59PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by ogar :
The 50$ a year also includes alot more then just the ability to utilize a netflix membership. 90% of people who utilize netflix on the 360 will have a GOld membership for gaming.
Actually 100% of people use utilize netflix on the 360 will have a gold membership because it's required whether they game online or not. I'm of the "not" group.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 04:05PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
And PC online gaming (aside from sports) smokes them both.
XBL should have nothing to so with Netflix just like MCE has nothing to so with XBL. It's simply a feature of the console.
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 04:14PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by BF69 :said by aaronwt :said by ptrowski :
$50 year won't break the bank.
Especially when you can get it for only $25 to $30 a year. I'm good until 2012 and I only paid between $25 and $30 a year but getting it when they are on sale.
Just like I only pay $10 to $14 for every 1600 MS points I get. I buy them when they are on sale.
yes yes check everyday for a sale that may happen once every 3 months. Some people like to buy stuff when they want to buy it. Not make it a hobby.
Also you assume everyone is some single loner living in his basement. Even at $25 of you have one account for the parents and they have 3 kids that's 4 XBL gold accounts and that's $100 year even on your bargain hunt. over 6 years that's $600. I could buy 2 more PS3s with that.
No I don't assume a loner. Your average family with a 360 is not going to have four gold accounts. Most will have one or possibly two gold accounts and the rest will be silver accounts.
And besides with one gold accout you can play with multiple people online with that machine. I see it everytime I play multiplayer online. Other people have multiple people playing on one machine under the same account.
And I don't sit here and wait for a sale. When I see a sale going on I buy a bunch of the cards to cover me for a while. they have sales several times throughout the year. With XBL I bought enough to cover me for three years and my girlfriend for one. For points I bought enough to cover me for at least 12 months. Since I use XBL points for music with my ZUNE, videos on the Zune and 360, and games on the 360.
By getting them on sale I save up to 50%. And when I'm talking several hundred dollars, I would rather spend $200 on MS points than $400.
Unless you just like paying the retail price for everything you purchase which would be highly unusual.
Like with Windows 7. Why would I wait to pay the full retail price of Home Premium for $120? I preordered mine during the Summer when they were $50.
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 04:24PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
said by IT Guy :
Nice! Hopefully this will force the Play Station Network to re-evaluate their price structure and/or the length of time you have available to view the movies you rent.
Sony doesn't control the length of time you rent movies. Well I guess they do for their own movies, but i doubt they want to break from the industry standard(the content provides dictate the rental period). Which is 24 hours. Until you get the major players to break from that mold, that will be the norm. And there is no incentive to break from that mold if the other big players are doing the same thing.
Personally I wish they would implement a 30 hour rental period. That would help the consumer while still keeping the period short for the providers. But no one has gone that route yet.
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though @ 26th Oct 04:25PM:
is HD confirmed for the PS3 ????
title says all.....
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Neyland @ 26th Oct 04:33PM:
Re: Wii?
said by tiger72 :said by AstroBoy :said by kapil :
Aw Come On. PS3 before Wii?
The wii is low-res video only. Why bother?
Why not? If the processor can handle the task, why not? The Wii is the console that "non-gamers" get, and could easily introduce people to the idea of using their internet connection for more than just email and the occasional porn.
Because when the video isn't what people expect, Netflix will get blamed and not the beloved Wii (I'm a Wii owner too).
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Neyland @ 26th Oct 04:35PM:
Re: Not Exclusive, Tivo's had it for awhile, and now BlockBuster
We stream to our Tivo, but I'm not sure what the uproar is about, the movie choices still pretty much suck.
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Antonlm @ 26th Oct 04:42PM:
Can you play movies from Sony Studios
on the 360? I was under the impression you could not. If not, and if you can on the PS3, I may get a PS3 just for more movie selections.
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dddane @ 26th Oct 05:09PM:
Re: Wii?
exactly.
Wii *can* play DVD, but nintendo doesn't want it to by default. it's not a hardware issue that it can't do it for.
my guess on this is they're holding out so they can say streaming netflix is another new feature of the next-yet-to-be-announced-but-highly-speculated-2010-release wii. of course there's also speculation that there won't actually be a new wii release in 2010, but instead will be a hardware "upconvert" which allows new features... (which, even though netflix could happen on the unit now, could still be added as a feature of even an 'upconvert').
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IT Guy @ 26th Oct 05:14PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
So you're saying it is the company that owns the rights to that movie that dictate the length the rental is available to watch via PSN? Aside from movies I've purchased through PSN, all the rentals I've RENTED from PSN always been limited to 24 hours to watch the movie from the point I have started the download and 12 hours once I have activated the movie (by starting it). I've rented tons of movies via PSN, so I'm fairly certain not all the titles I have rented are companies where Sony is the parent company.
All I'm saying, especially considering the $3.99 price tag for new, SD, mainstream releases, $5.99 for HD. It would just be a nice gesture if they tacked on an extra day as a contingency for those who couldn't get around to watching the movie in that relatively short period of time. But that's just my opinion. I don't have a problem going a few blocks to Hasting's and having a rental for 5 days and cheaper too.
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Couch Potato @ 26th Oct 05:24PM:
Finally
First, let it be known that I own a PS3, Xbox 360, and a Wii. I have also had a Netflix account for over a year now. I very rarely play games online, so I do not have an Xbox Live Gold account. I did stream using my 360 with my free month and it was ok. I use my PC for streaming most of the time (it's hooked up to a 42" LCD 1080p TV) but with the inception of Silverlight, I can no longer play World of Warcraft, or do anything else for that matter, on my monitor and Stream at the same time on my HDTV (in fullscreen mode, anyway). This will make it so that I can stream via my PS3 and play WoW, or do anything else I want to, at the same time, just like I want to and used to be able to before Netflix switched to Silverlight. I too hope they have HD streaming available to those of us who would like to use their PS3s for this.
I also wanted to note the best statement in the press release, next to the actual announcement of Netflix on the PS3. This is where Sony is better than Microsoft in this case:
Members can use the Netflix Web site or navigate directly on their PS3 systems to add movies and TV shows to their Queues. With the PS3 system's Wireless Controller, members can choose a movie to watch from their instant Queues or just play directly from any of the lists. They also have the ability to read synopses and rate movies. In addition, they have the option of fast-forwarding and rewinding the video stream via the Wireless Controller.
Whereas I remember having to add to my Queue on my PC and then being able to stream it to the 360. This was annoying.
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SKYHN @ 26th Oct 05:34PM:
Well...
Well at least 360 still has exclusive rights on HD-DVD.
Oh wait....
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 05:35PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
said by IT Guy :
So you're saying it is the company that owns the rights to that movie that dictate the length the rental is available to watch via PSN? Aside from movies I've purchased through PSN, all the rentals I've RENTED from PSN always been limited to 24 hours to watch the movie from the point I have started the download and 12 hours once I have activated the movie (by starting it). I've rented tons of movies via PSN, so I'm fairly certain not all the titles I have rented are companies where Sony is the parent company.
All I'm saying, especially considering the $3.99 price tag for new, SD, mainstream releases, $5.99 for HD. It would just be a nice gesture if they tacked on an extra day as a contingency for those who couldn't get around to watching the movie in that relatively short period of time. But that's just my opinion. I don't have a problem going a few blocks to Hasting's and having a rental for 5 days and cheaper too.
It is the same length on VUDU, Xbox Live, Amazon, etc. Although some independent labels give you 48 hours, the majors only give you 24 hours.
This is nothing new. It has been this was for a while.
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Couch Potato @ 26th Oct 05:40PM:
Re: Well...
said by SKYHN :
Well at least 360 still has exclusive rights on HD-DVD.
Oh wait....
you made me lol.
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odreian615 @ 26th Oct 05:46PM:
Come to Viera cast please
I got a blu-ray player for $150 from Panasonic with Viera cast and don't want to pay Amazon for movies
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IT Guy @ 26th Oct 05:46PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
Ah, ok.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 06:15PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Right, you just drop the money for a PS3. That's free, right?
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RoadRunner79 @ 26th Oct 06:36PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
on xbox you can hold the movie for five days but the moment you push play you have 24hrs.
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jinjimbob @ 26th Oct 07:59PM:
Re: is HD confirmed for the PS3 ????
HD really isn't HD, I have the Roko too, HD just means slightly better picture quality, High Def.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 08:01PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
I already have one. Like the X360, I use it to play single-player titles and Sony doesn't come after me for $50 a year in perpetuity.
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aaronwt @ 26th Oct 08:08PM:
Re: Netflix Streaming Coming to PS3
said by RoadRunner79 :
on xbox you can hold the movie for five days but the moment you push play you have 24hrs.
The great thing about Xbox is that any video content purchased can be viewed on any Xbox as long as you are logged in with the gamertag that the content was purchased with. This has come in handy with my Xboxes.
I just wish I could do something similar with my VUDU boxes.
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xocsucram @ 26th Oct 08:10PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by BF69PSN is FREE for everything on it. I have not seen anything special about XBL that make is worth $300 over a 6 year period compared to PSN. And that's for ONE XBL gold account.
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let me know when you dont have to install a demo AFTER waiting for it to finish downloading it...lolz
then after about 10-15 minutes of installing(thats real time not over exaggerated), it tells you the demo is no longer available!!! lol
when its advertised right on the PSN tab
Uncharted 2 FTL.
i could already be playing the demo from XBL before the install process even begins on PSN, lulz
another example of "you get what you pay for"
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Omega @ 26th Oct 08:13PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Z80 :
X360 requires a $50/yr XBL gold subscription in addition to the normal Netflix monthly fee.
Oh no! $50 a year!!! That's a whole 13 cents a day for an unlimited service. A pretty good deal, espcially considering that the people who have xbox360's and want xbl have disposable incomes since they need broadband, money for the console and money for the game.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 08:35PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
What unlimited service? I don't play online titles with my X360. I have no interest in XBL. The $50 in my case is for allowing Netflix and NOTHING else and I'm happy that I'm not longer going to fork over $50 to Ballmer.
$0.13/day to simply have the right to access Netflix IMO is dumb. That $50 is $50 more than Sony is going to charge for Netflix access.
You may be in to wasting money, but I'm not. PS3's opening Netflix for FREE as opposed to Microsoft charging $50 a year, I'll simply be turning off the X360, canceling XBL renewal and running the PS3.
Since you are a philanthropist, why not just give Ballmer a $100 a year for XBL. I mean, it's only $0.011/hr.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 08:36PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
And that's why there are a few million less people on the PSN. You have a PS3, great. Too bad we have been streaming on the 360 for a while. Here's to catching up to a better online experience and Netflix.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 08:38PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Here's to not having to pay Microsoft $50 for the privilege of paying Netflix.
And 1 million, 100 million, I don't play online titles on my consoles so I could care less about the "community" of XBL or PSN. I use the network functionality to grab demos and use the consoles as media center extenders, that's it.
For online gaming I stick to PC as console FPSes suck.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 08:48PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
This will go round and round. Go enjoy your PSN.
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Morac @ 26th Oct 08:48PM:
Re: is HD confirmed for the PS3 ????
said by jinjimbob :
HD really isn't HD, I have the Roko too, HD just means slightly better picture quality, High Def.
I don't know about the Roku box, but on TiVo, Netflix streams HD (720p), granted it's nowhere near the quality you'd get from blu-ray, but it is technically HD.
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Z80 @ 26th Oct 08:53PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Don't care about PSN, or XBL.
But Ballmer I'm sure appreciates your business.
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ptrowski @ 26th Oct 09:38PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Z80 :
Don't care about PSN, or XBL.
But Ballmer I'm sure appreciates your business.
Then why make such a fuss?
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anon @ 27th Oct 12:00AM:
Re: Finally
said by Couch Potato : I also wanted to note the best statement in the press release, next to the actual announcement of Netflix on the PS3. This is where Sony is better than Microsoft in this case:
Members can use the Netflix Web site or navigate directly on their PS3 systems to add movies and TV shows to their Queues. With the PS3 system's Wireless Controller, members can choose a movie to watch from their instant Queues or just play directly from any of the lists. They also have the ability to read synopses and rate movies. In addition, they have the option of fast-forwarding and rewinding the video stream via the Wireless Controller.
Whereas I remember having to add to my Queue on my PC and then being able to stream it to the 360. This was annoying.
This is no longer the case on the xbox... you can browse and such from the interface.
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Winerin @ 27th Oct 01:58AM:
Finally
Finally a reason to get Netflix again. Been waiting for this for awhile.
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anon @ 27th Oct 07:09AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Guess I'm one of the 10% you speak of.
only purchased xbox gold for netflix = $50.
as far as other ways to get netflix for free.
media center PC, plug in for xbox360 from computer, external netflix box, tv or blu-ray with it built in. or now... PS3 !
I'm sure as hell not paying $50 next year for xbox.
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SRFireside @ 27th Oct 09:05AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
There are media servers out there for the PS3 as well that do all that as well. The real deal maker for me would be if any of these consoles would start becoming DVRs themselves (maybe with a TV tuner add on) instead of just relaying data from another machine.
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SRFireside @ 27th Oct 09:07AM:
Re: Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
PlayOn costs money. Now you don't need it to stream NetFlix on the PS3 as it can be done for free (well... with a NetFlix account).
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Jason Levine @ 27th Oct 10:06AM:
Re: Dammit.
I got one last month (won it in an online contest) and it's great. My kids even ask to watch Roku over regular cable TV. (I've even contemplated canceling cable. Would save us $75 a month!)
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R4M0N @ 27th Oct 10:14AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
said by SRFireside :
There are media servers out there for the PS3 as well that do all that as well. The real deal maker for me would be if any of these consoles would start becoming DVRs themselves (maybe with a TV tuner add on) instead of just relaying data from another machine.
That's exactly what I want too... I already use TVersity with my PS3, I just would love to have the PS3 as a standalone DVR with dual tuners... Heaven...
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xocsucram @ 27th Oct 10:35AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
you know your console sucks when the only thing you ever talk about are how its non-gaming features are better than the competition. lol
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Van @ 27th Oct 10:41AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Considering how much both consoles taught their non-gaming features, I am not sure how exactly that has any basis.......
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aaronwt @ 27th Oct 10:45AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Van :
Considering how much both consoles tout their non-gaming features, I am not sure how exactly that has any basis.......
+1
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Z80 @ 27th Oct 11:13AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Because Microsoft insisted on $50 per year for me to use Netflix on my XBL even if I didn't want to use any online gaming features. That additional fee equates to a 46% increase in monthly Netflix cost.
No fuss now that Sony will allow me to use Netflix over a console without paying $50 per year extra.
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ptrowski @ 27th Oct 11:41AM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Z80 :
Because Microsoft insisted on $50 per year for me to use Netflix on my XBL even if I didn't want to use any online gaming features. That additional fee equates to a 46% increase in monthly Netflix cost.
No fuss now that Sony will allow me to use Netflix over a console without paying $50 per year extra.
Right....and XBL is just for gaming. Free content, map packs etc. Being able to watch other videos, rent movies and TV programs. I have some friends that don't use XBL for gaming online at all but use it more for a media center to rent movies.
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Z80 @ 27th Oct 02:07PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
You don't have to have a Gold account to rent movies. You don't have to have a Gold account to get demos. You don't have to have a Gold account to rent TV shows. You don't have to have a Gold account to get map packs.
Gold gets you video chat, online play (obviously) and Netflix, that's about it. The free Silver account gets you everything else. Netflix should be a Silver (Free) feature as it will soon be with the PS3.
The $50 is for the Gold account, not "XBL". You can get most XBL features without forking over $50 every year. Everything you mention (rentals, map packs etc) can be had using a Silver account.
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Skippy25 @ 27th Oct 02:20PM:
Re: Wii?
It doesnt matter what the reason is, whether it be hardware, software, or the weather. (Though I did not know it was restricted in the US).
The point is plain and simple: I cannot put a DVD into my Wii and play it. I have to have another external DVD player connected to my TV to watch a DVD without having the modify the system beyond the basic menu options provided by the manufacturer.
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ptrowski @ 27th Oct 02:46PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
That's good to know then. I never bothered with a silver account as I play with friends online.
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aaronwt @ 27th Oct 05:17PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
some download, demos, etc, are available to gold accounts a week or two prior to being available to silver accounts.
I have a gold account for my gameplay and game purchases and a silver account I use for my music and video rentals and purchases.
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jinjimbob @ 28th Oct 09:20PM:
Re: is HD confirmed for the PS3 ????
The uncompressed results might be at the resolution and frame rate, but the device (roku/tivo) is making half of the information up. It is similar to upconverting dvd players, the information just isn't there to produce that resolution.
Remember when DirecTv used to transmit HD channels and now they are HD-Lite, the same thing.
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Morac @ 28th Oct 09:48PM:
Re: is HD confirmed for the PS3 ????
said by jinjimbob :
The uncompressed results might be at the resolution and frame rate, but the device (roku/tivo) is making half of the information up. It is similar to upconverting dvd players, the information just isn't there to produce that resolution.
There's nothing in the HD standard that says HD has to be a specific bit rate, only the resolution and frame rate are specified. So for all intents and purposes Netflix is HD (as was DirecTv and is Comcast's HD).
There's nothing to "make up" since the video is already at the right resolution, there's simply less detail in the picture. It's like comparing cable or OTA HD to blu-ray. Both are HD, but blu-ray looks better.
As for Netflix, it can come close to cable and OTA HD quality do to the fact that it uses VC-1AP which is a more advanced codec than MPEG-2 and also that they optimize their video encodes.
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fireflier @ 29th Oct 08:08AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
Huh? PS3 is DLNA and UPnP capable. Works fine with Twonky, Tversity, and PlayOn. It even sees my DirecTV HR-21 boxes (though DirecTV won't allow anything to access them).
I've been streaming netflix to my PS3 via a PC running PlayOn for months.
The only change this NetFlix release makes for me is it will go directly to the PS3 now rather than through a separate PC.
Even so, PlayOn makes my music, movies, and photos available on the PS3. For that matter, if I'd allowed UPnP and Microsoft's media server service to run (I turned them off), the PS3 could access my music and videos that route. I preferred to use TVersity and PlayOn for the additional features.
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fireflier @ 29th Oct 08:14AM:
Re: Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
It's been working fine for me. It sucks with my DirecTV HR-21s, but that's a DirecTV issue, not PlayOn.
I've even used it with an Archos 5 player.
I got an email from them today hinting that they're gearing up for some major updates to the product as well. If they can get it to perform all of the same functions as TVersity, I'll have no need for Tversity anymore since it doesn't stream Netflix (at least presently).
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SRFireside @ 29th Oct 08:40AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
said by fireflier :
Even so, PlayOn makes my music, movies, and photos available on the PS3. For that matter, if I'd allowed UPnP and Microsoft's media server service to run (I turned them off), the PS3 could access my music and videos that route. I preferred to use TVersity and PlayOn for the additional features.
PS3 Media Server does all that for free (except maybe connecting to MS Media Server... can someone verify?).
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fireflier @ 29th Oct 10:14AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
It's difficult to tell from what I've found via Google, but does PS3 Media server support clients other than the PS3? It appears it would if it's DLNA and UPnP compliant, but I haven't read anything in what I've found yet that it readily supports other DLNA and UPnP platform devices other than something that seems to suggest beta support for the Xbox 360?
As far as connecting to the MS Media Server, with PS3 Media server it would be redundant since the PS3 Media server would be performing the same function--streaming local media to the PS3. Since I used TVersity for that, I didn't need the MS Media serving capabilities, hence my reason for disabling them.
What feature sets does it have as far as other connectivity? Does it stream Netflix? Amazon VOD? Hulu? YouTube? Does it handle Plug-Ins to allow access to other material? I've got some Plug-ins for PlayOn that give me access to Sci-Fi, Comedy Central, and other "channels" for their programs.
I've never used PS3 Media Server so I honestly don't know what it can and can't do.
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fireflier @ 29th Oct 10:25AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
said by SRFireside :
maybe with a TV tuner add on
Even better: »www.silicondust.com/products/hdh···ome_atsc
This wouldn't require a semi-proprietary add-on piece of hardware for every console wanting to do it. It would simply require software modifications to permit access via the network.
I've been using an HD HomeRun for months and it works great with Vista and Win7 Media Center.
Mine's got two tuners allowing two people to watch different programs simultaneously on different PCs anywhere on the network (read: anywhere within range of my wi-fi in the house). I've found the HD HomeRun to be a lot less hassle than installing a tuner card in my HTPC and I get the added benefit of using it with notebooks that don't have tuner cards. :)
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SRFireside @ 29th Oct 03:53PM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
said by fireflier :
It's difficult to tell from what I've found via Google, but does PS3 Media server support clients other than the PS3?
Short answer is no. It's all about connecting your PC to the PS3 and nothing more. It does this very well and supports a host of video options. But it's not going to stream NetFlix or any other application (maybe the PS3 build in browser can do Amazon?). I have been using it for months and have used it to access videos, music, photos stored in my PC to view/listen on my home entertainment system.
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fireflier @ 30th Oct 10:02AM:
Re: What I would kill to have on the PS3...
Ah, well there's your answer: you get what you pay for. ;)
If PS3 Media provides the services you want, awesome, but PlayOn does provide some additional capabilities that (apparently) PS3 Media does not and that's worth $40 to me for the program plus free upgrades. In fact, I primarily bought it for streaming NetFlix to my PS3 at the time figuring the PS3 would eventually do it natively. Since then, they've added some additional capabilities to it that are worthwhile. It also supports my DirecTV HR-21s (mostly) as well as other DLNA and UPnP devices.
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think I paid $30 for PlayOn--but then, I got quite some time back. Maybe they've refined it and placed higher value on it. Even so, I'm still getting free upgrades and they're still adding features. :D
My suspicion is they'll be working harder to add even more features now that they're learning that they'll be losing those potential customers who want it only for PS3 Netflix streaming.
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anon @ 30th Oct 10:15PM:
Re: Wii?
Sony always wins baby!!
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headshot12 @ 31st Oct 11:36AM:
Re: Just an FYI: PlayOn does this already
I use PlayOn and TVersity as well and have had no issues that aren't attributable to low bandwidth or high latency (which is almost always the case with my "broadband" wireless).
Also, PlayOn lets me watch my Hulu lists. (TVersity gives you Hulu as well, but only the generic lists - no login).
Oh, yeah, and I have access to my extensive MP3 and video selection - through either TVersity or PlayOn...using library "folders" through the XMB interface instead of just filesystem folders you'd get using a USB drive.
You get what you pay for.
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EGeezer @ 31st Oct 09:04PM:
Just wait until the anti-net neutrality bunch gets their way
When the anti-net neutrality bunch gets their way, you'll be downloading at dialup speed as your ISP throttles Netflix, their new "content provider" competition, in favor of the ISP's "preferred" streaming content.
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xocsucram @ 2nd Nov 01:21PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
said by Van :
Considering how much both consoles taught their non-gaming features, I am not sure how exactly that has any basis.......
um ive yet to see a commercial on tv for 360 talking about anything but games...
latest 360 commercial = GTA IV Ballad of Gay Tony DLC
latest PS3 commercial = a guy tellilng you that it now only costs 299 and you can watch BluRay movies, surf the internet and a bunch of other crap..
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Van @ 2nd Nov 03:35PM:
Re: And from what I've read, no dumb fee
Then you should branch out more and see if you can catch any of the 360/Netflix ads or the numerous statements released by Microsoft touting their non-gaming features
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