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Matt @ 22nd May 10:19AM:
Unbelievable
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
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patcat88 @ 22nd May 10:24AM:
intra-nets are great
So they built an intra-net instead of the internet. Thats good that they were honest unlike China and Australia. Trying to filter the internet is impossible, so if you disconnect from the outside world, your police force can easily censor any problems in real life by just visiting the webmaster's home, and not resort to filters and blacklists which are easily defeated.
Since north korea has a "no leaving the country" and a "no communications to/from outside the country", this intranet plan fits perfectly into their strategy. It would be very hypocritical for them to have given internet access to their citizens after all the other censoring that is done.
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elios @ 22nd May 10:25AM:
Re: Unbelievable
its becouse its still 1950 there and becouse the indoctrination starts at an early age
they just dont know any different and government does a damn good job keeping out news from the rest of the world
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S_engineer @ 22nd May 10:25AM:
Re: Unbelievable
Their alternative would be death. This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. It's not so hard to believe...don't you remember the Soviet Union?
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Eat Me @ 22nd May 10:26AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
Part of it is fear, the other part is pride.
When you control the flow of information to the whole country and lock it completely down, the people don't know any better.
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zipjay @ 22nd May 10:31AM:
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»www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGiglVxRMmM
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stufried @ 22nd May 10:32AM:
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Yes, I would definitely go over my cap watching the official news.
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Time @ 22nd May 10:33AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by S_engineer :
This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
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TomS_ @ 22nd May 10:46AM:
No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
He has many things that he wont allow his citizens to have. But hey, its a dictatorship, who are they going to complain to?
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Jeffrey @ 22nd May 10:46AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.
My fiancee is Korean - she was born here, but her parents were born in Korea (South) and much of their family remains over there. When my fiancee's cousin visited two years ago, I asked him about what S. Koreans thought about their neighbor, and perhaps how our perceptions thousands of miles away are different from people who live much closer.
In speaking with him, the conversation was short and pointed, not so much because his english was poor (it wasn't - he spoke just about as good as any English-speaking American), but because it obviously made him a little uncomfortable to talk about N. Korea. I think being a few hundred miles away from The Dear Lunatic, that their perceptions of danger are different than ours.
With regard to the Internet in N. Korea--that price tag is a deal-breaker for almost every N. Korean citizen. The rest of the people are figuring out how to put food on the table.
It's a sad situation over there, and frankly, the people need more than censored wireless Internet.
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stufried @ 22nd May 10:49AM:
Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
It is is necessary so that he can keep apprised of the matters of hmm ugh political significance being spread around the net. www.southkoreanhotties.com
At least he isn't kidnapping his sex toys from the South and his Japanese language teachers from Japanese coastal towns anymore.
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Jeffrey @ 22nd May 10:49AM:
Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
said by TomS_ :
No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
He does, and it's said that he enjoys many perks of Western culture, like fine cigars, Mercades, and movies. I only wish he'd thrown on TLC's "What Not To Wear" or even E! for some fashon tips, because those glasses and one-piece jumpsuits are so, like, not cool. ;)
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Matt @ 22nd May 10:49AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Jeffrey :said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.
I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
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Jeffrey @ 22nd May 10:52AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Matt :
I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
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"Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy." - George Carlin
[my ramblings]
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TomS_ @ 22nd May 10:53AM:
Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
said by Jeffrey :
those glasses and one-piece jumpsuits are so, like, not cool. ;)
Ive heard that the only reason he hasnt changed his image is due to the amount of statues and paintings which are in that style.
For him to change his look would require updating all of the statues and paintings. :-)
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elios @ 22nd May 11:22AM:
Re: Unbelievable
get'em young kids are pulled in to it from day one
look around the net abit youll find it
they have them sing songs about there "Great" Leader as soon as they can talk
its like a cult
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moonpuppy @ 22nd May 11:26AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Jeffrey :
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
It has become a "cult of personality." Kids are taught at a very young age how bad the outside world is and that they need to listen and obey the "Dear Leader" at all costs. Kids are taught from a very young age that the outside world is out to get them and only their Dear Leader can protect them. It is easy to mold young minds.
ANY dissent, whether real or perceived, is dealt with in such a way that would make Stalin blush.
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Fir_Na_Tine @ 22nd May 11:26AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Jeffrey :said by Matt :
I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
I saw a special on North Korea once, there was a guy who was sneaking in and out of the country with a video camera, risking his life to show the world what its really like there. Also it had some chilling interviews of a few who managed to get out. They also say if you step out of line they will not only kill you but generations of your family as well. Plus they are probably all so weak from not getting enough food so they don't stand a chance against the army.
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furlonium @ 22nd May 11:30AM:
Caps? Overages?
From browsing a news website? I'd love to see that happen - unless the KCNA has HD feeds of their telecasts :D
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iansltx @ 22nd May 11:30AM:
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Nah, probably unlimitd. Bandwidth costs are low since it's just in-country, spectrum is provided by the government...well, okay, the government might charge high prices that would cause the partnered telco to pass 'em on...hmm...
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stufried @ 22nd May 11:34AM:
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Nah. North Korea just printed a few more million US dollars this week to pay off Orascom.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdollar
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Eat Me @ 22nd May 11:35AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Time :said by S_engineer :
This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.
Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign.
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Eat Me @ 22nd May 11:37AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Jeffrey :
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything.
Scared and proud. It is very much like the old soviet union.
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Jason Levine @ 22nd May 11:43AM:
Re: Unbelievable
From what I know, information is tightly controlled to a degree that makes China look like a free society. In addition, the populace is kept dirt poor. They are literally spending so much time trying to feed their families that they have no time or energy to even think about revolting. And anyone who somehow gets up the courage to question "Dear Leader" is quickly silenced before his questions lead to revolt. In other words, the North Korean regime is very, very good at maintaining power.
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Juke Box @ 22nd May 11:45AM:
High Speed Propoganda
Nothing like having high speed propaganda while eating American made rice and kimchi.
I loves me some kimchi. :p
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uid1307457 @ 22nd May 12:14PM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
if they had a problem they would have killed him already.
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uid1307457 @ 22nd May 12:15PM:
Re: High Speed Propoganda
said by Juke Box :
Nothing like having high speed propaganda while eating American made rice and kimchi.
I loves me some kimchi. :p
I have instant kimchi bowls under my desk at home.
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en102 @ 22nd May 12:39PM:
Re: Unbelievable
Exactly.
When you're raised from a very young age with a specific belief, and no access to anything else - you will believe that it is the truth. All cults (and even most basic ways of living) to a certain degree employ this:
- N. Korea (lack of info - locked down state, dictatorship)
- Cuba
- Cults (David Koresh anyone)
- Religion, or more specific 'religious states' where religion = law
- Political groups (Decocrats/Repulicans here in the US) attempt to recruit young and have you drink their Kool-Aid
All are attempts at controlling you. Media is one of the largest that 'we' in are influenced by. Whether you believe it or not - TV/Radio is a HUGE influence in the US, especially when TVs have become baby sitters in many lifestyles.
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N3OGH @ 22nd May 12:43PM:
Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
He's probably surfing Hulu or Match dot com right now.
Username: GreatLeader5625
Occupation: Tyrannical dictator
Height: 5' 1"
Eyes: See my propaganda films
Hair: See my propaganda paintings
Has kids? Yes
Wants Kids? Maybe
Likes: Mercedes, Johnny Walker, Hot stripper babes dancing to Amerikan rock music under a disco ball, Hennessy, Live (yes, I said live) sushi, & mugwort rice cakes.
Dislikes: Freedom, representative government, bandwidth, fiber optic cables, America, South Korea and bifurcated peninsulas.
Thing about you only your really close friends know:
My nuclear weapon really just fizzled. I really don't need it now, thanks to Cialis!
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anon @ 22nd May 03:02PM:
Re: Unbelievable
And the US is not as far behind these other Statist countries either, with it's rush toward Statism in the past decade.
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cdru @ 22nd May 01:16PM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by uid1307457 :
if they had a problem, he would have killed (or imprisoned for "re-education") them already.
Fixed.
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cdru @ 22nd May 01:22PM:
Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
said by Jeffrey :
I only wish he'd thrown on TLC's "What Not To Wear" or even E! for some fashon tips, because those glasses and one-piece jumpsuits are so, like, not cool.
His glasses are no worse off then Paris Hilton's or Victoria Beckham, both of which E probably can't get enough off.
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Juke Box @ 22nd May 02:24PM:
Re: High Speed Propoganda
said by uid1307457 :said by Juke Box :
Nothing like having high speed propaganda while eating American made rice and kimchi.
I loves me some kimchi. :p
I have instant kimchi bowls under my desk at home.
So, you like spicy cabbage too?
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SilentMan @ 22nd May 03:49PM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Eat Me :said by Time :said by S_engineer :
This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
I have been to Venezuela many times and the media is not really suppressed there.
Rather, Chavez is viewed as a hero of the poor and working class, which is why he continues to reign.
The kind of opposition that the private media do against Chavez is something that the US Corporate media would never even dream about doing to the US Government.
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theboz1419 @ 22nd May 04:14PM:
Re: Unbelievable
One of the scariest places I have ever been to was on the border of North Korea and South Korea at Panmunjom(truce village).
Even though I was with in the Army I had to sign a waiver that basically stated if anything happend we(US gov. or South Korea) were not responcible if you die, and do not make any gestures to any North Korean soldiers or dont point to North Korea and then it said have a nice day.
I spent a year there and one of the biggest jokes being there was that the US Military and S. Korean military would just be a speed bump to the N. Korean military. We were so out numbered, it would not even matter if we had the training and weapons, there are just to many of them(n. Korean)
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theboz1419 @ 22nd May 04:17PM:
Re: High Speed Propoganda
I love Kimchi, I even make it myself
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wifi4milez @ 22nd May 05:28PM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Time :said by S_engineer :
This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
Give Obama a break man! ;)
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anon @ 22nd May 11:38PM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
It is hard for YOU to imagine. Perhaps you have never been to North Korea? Maybe you don't realize that that population has been under the hand of communism since 1945? Maybe you don't understand that before communism, they were under absolute Japanese rule since the SinoRussian war back around 1910? Maybe you just don't know what you are asserting...
Koreans are some of the most honorable people on this planet. Being a Korean linguist, I can honestly tell you that from experience. The reason that you don't understand what they have been through is that you have not researched it.
The Korean War was the first war fought by the U.N.... It called, "The Forgotten War", by veterans because it was simply forgotten. People think that the Viet-Nam vets were short changed. Well they were but the Korean war vets were not short changed, they were forgotten. Hence the name.
You just don't really know much about Korea, Matt.
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anon @ 22nd May 11:51PM:
Re: High Speed Propoganda
said by theboz1419 :
I love Kimchi, I even make it myself
There is a Korean lady that posts her recipies on YouTube...
Search for KimChi recipies, you will find her.
I love KimChi and KakTuGi and all the other NaMul.
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RR Conductor @ 23rd May 03:44AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by wifi4milez :said by Time :said by S_engineer :
This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
Give Obama a break man! ;)
Thanks for that propaganda, the RNC thanks you.
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wvcaver @ 23rd May 06:52AM:
PROPAGANDA
Sounds like propaganda from the DPRK !
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Matt @ 23rd May 10:50AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by AnonDOG :said by Matt :
It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
It is hard for YOU to imagine. Perhaps you have never been to North Korea? Maybe you don't realize that that population has been under the hand of communism since 1945? Maybe you don't understand that before communism, they were under absolute Japanese rule since the SinoRussian war back around 1910? Maybe you just don't know what you are asserting...
Koreans are some of the most honorable people on this planet. Being a Korean linguist, I can honestly tell you that from experience. The reason that you don't understand what they have been through is that you have not researched it.
The Korean War was the first war fought by the U.N.... It called, "The Forgotten War", by veterans because it was simply forgotten. People think that the Viet-Nam vets were short changed. Well they were but the Korean war vets were not short changed, they were forgotten. Hence the name.
You just don't really know much about Korea, Matt.
I know what I have been taught in college, which is plenty. And I'm assuming you've been to North Korea as most American obviously are very welcome there correct?
As to your second point, I'm not sure why you think I'm slighting Koreans. Some of my best friends (and neighbors) are Koreans and I had a Korean roommate for many years -- and I love Samsung.
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Time @ 23rd May 11:07AM:
Re: Unbelievable
said by disconnected :
And the US is not as far behind these other Statist countries either, with it's rush toward Statism in the past decade.
We're not going to be far behind North Korea if the retards in Congress keep spending at this rate.
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THoff @ 24th May 12:59AM:
Re: Unbelievable