Suddenlink Brings DOCSIS 3.0 To Texas - Though speeds top out at 20Mbps...
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Suddenlink Brings DOCSIS 3.0 To Texas
Though speeds top out at 20Mbps...
09:03AM Friday Aug 14 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: business · bandwidth · cable · networking · Suddenlink
Suddenlink this week officially announced they're bringing DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades and speeds up to 20Mbps to to select areas of Texas. According to the provider, the deployment will service 100,000 customers, or about 8% of Suddenlink's 1.3 million residential subscribers. Suddenlink offers cable broadband service in Arkansas, California, Louisiana, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas and West Virginia. Just last month the company began offering users a usage monitor to help consumers track usage, a move that could ultimately result in caps and overage charges. The carrier consistently brings up the rear in our user review rankings, something reflected by how hard it is to get standalone broadband pricing information out of their website (try Lubbock, TX zip code 79401).

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anon @ 14th Aug 09:14AM:
LBK

I live in Lubbock, and they've had 20meg for about 6 months, but it's around $90 and the upload sucks. Also, all of these docsis 3.0 "trial" areas are very close to the area they are testing the usage monitor.
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patcat88 @ 14th Aug 09:34AM:
FIOS killer cherrypicking

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Suddenlink this week officially announced they're bringing DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades and speeds up to 20Mbps to to select areas of Texas. According to the provider, the deployment will service 100,000 customers, or about 8% of Suddenlink's 1.3 million residential subscribers. Suddenlink offers cable broadband service in Arkansas, California, Louisiana, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas and West Virginia.

Are those "select areas of Texas" the FIOS areas of Texas? :D
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Hookem99 @ 14th Aug 09:59AM:
Re: FIOS killer cherrypicking

said by patcat88 :


Are those "select areas of Texas" the FIOS areas of Texas? :D
No, actually they seem to be the ATT Uverse areas.

While I would love the extra bandwidth, I've had Suddenlink before, and know how they operate. There is a reason they are bottom of the barrel in rankings! Besides, I pay just 25/mo for 6/1 with Uverse. Not sure I could justify a 300% or more increase in price for 20mb.
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cypherstream @ 14th Aug 10:30AM:
Only 20mbps?

You don't need DOCSIS 3.0 for 20mbps. Cablevision and RCN have had 20+ mbps tiers with DOCSIS 2.0. My DOCSIS 1.1 Comcast power boost reaches to about 20mbps as well.

Why not utilize the technology for all its worth and start it at 50mbps?
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jimbo2150 @ 14th Aug 10:39AM:
Re: LBK

said by daroy99 :

I live in Lubbock, and they've had 20meg for about 6 months, but it's around $90 and the upload sucks. Also, all of these docsis 3.0 "trial" areas are very close to the area they are testing the usage monitor.
I have to agree with you, we don't really need 100+mb download at the moment. Hell, 10-20 is fine for even the most demanding streaming videos, but make it 10mb download / 10mb upload. This 10mb/200kb stuff is getting ridiculous. I upload a lot more now (especially data backed-up online) and I hate when I saturate the upload link which seems to cause download speeds to drop to 56k levels.
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anon @ 14th Aug 11:26AM:
Re: FIOS killer cherrypicking

West Texas for the most part has SL,U-verse, and Wimax. SL is not upgrading any of the areas that have no competition (North Houston, etc.). I have the unfortunate experience of having SL in both my hometown and college town, and neither can ever max out the "8 meg" speeds.
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Ikyuao @ 14th Aug 01:02PM:
Re: Only 20mbps?

utilize that for 50Mbits speed? then users need to utilize to tune the TCP window size be largely window in order to get benefits of 50Mbits of speed or otherwise if users don't utilized with TCP window size then they are out of the luck unless users are on the typical Vista or Win 7 OS that utilizes auto tune window size.
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iansltx @ 14th Aug 01:57PM:
Re: Only 20mbps?

Short answer: why compete when you don't have to?

Long answer: SL seems to be trying to allow for a lot of overhead on their tiers, so they don't have to sink money into node splits etc. to provide service. If you have 1000 people on a single cable node, there's no way you can ever hope to push 20 Mbps on a single DOCSIS channel. So while 20 Mbps is a conservative number, their network probably can't handle much more than that.

The real kicker here though is the upload: 1 Mbps. Granted, this is better than 768k, but I think SL will have a hard time when Clear WiMAX comes in with that same upload speed on a $35 or $45 package. Suddenlink has tended to be rather ridiculous with low upload speeds though, so this is the rule, not the exception; in some areas (where 8 Mbit or 10 Mbit internet is the fastest tier) residential tiers max out at 512kbps on the upload side.
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Hpower @ 14th Aug 03:00PM:
Re: LBK

True, that10mb/200kb is dumb. I much rather have 10/10 speed.

I have 20/2 speed and most servers don't even get me the full speeds. 2mbps upload still is much better than the 1mbps I had with timewarner. I can't wait till 60mbps speeds come out with Charter....that is if they come with that at all lol.

I'd think they would go with 50mbps for DOCSIS 3.0 rather than 20mbps.
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jimbo2150 @ 14th Aug 03:34PM:
Re: LBK

said by Hpower :

I can't wait till 60mbps speeds come out with Charter....that is if they come with that at all lol.
.. or that it will have any faster upload. They could certainly make a 60/2 tier and you would be no better off. Just paying more.
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Al3sinth @ 14th Aug 04:18PM:
upgrades

They also seem to be doing some changing to their teirs as well. Some of us in WV that were on the 6/256 plan got bumped to 8/768, and others on the 12/768 have been seeing 12/1 speeds.
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shelby10763 @ 16th Aug 08:57PM:
Already at 20MB

Suddenlink has been offering 20MB in most of Texas for atleast six to eight months. They created a fiber ring through a couple of the Texas markets.

All the while, none of the other markets haven't seen any upgrades.
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anon @ 19th Aug 12:10AM:
docsis3

i have been using 20 mbit line since lubbock began offering it in december using a docsis 2 router. last week they downgraded me to the 8 mbit line and tried to argue that the router they provided me in december would not support full speed of the 20mbit line, and wanted me to pay 75 dollars for a new docsis 3 router. i told them to put my service back on (without a new modem) and can assure you, i'm getting 100% of the speed that i'm paying for (although 2mbit upload is too slow)
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eaglei13 @ 2nd Oct 02:39PM:
Re: docsis3

Which service do you have? I have Preferred High Speed
Internet. Should mine top out at 8mbit, or should I be getting 20mbit also? I usually test around 7.5mbit most of the time.
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