Verizon Loses One GPON Partner - Though it shouldn't impact FiOS upgrades...
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Verizon Loses One GPON Partner
Though it shouldn't impact FiOS upgrades...
(old news - 03:01PM Wednesday Apr 02 2008)
tags: prices · Fiber · competition · business · hardware · networking · Verizon FIOS
Tipped by MrSpock29
Verizon is in the process of migrating their FiOS network from BPON to GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) fiber technology. Their current BPON technology splits 622Mbps downstream and 155Mbps upstream among 32 users. GPON technology will allow them to offer 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream among 32-64 users (eliminating ATM, making it also more efficient). All new builds in California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Texas this year will be GPON.

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However, one of Verizon's three deployment partners for GPON gear, Tellabs, says they'll no longer be working with the telco. Light Reading has a little more detail, stating that the two companies couldn't agree on price or deployment details. Verizon will continue to work with Motorola and their primary GPON partner Alcatel Lucent.

In our humble professional opinion, Alcatel clearly won Verizon's favor by having the most highly suggestive brochures (see image, right). When we think network engineering and GPON, we think sexy -- and Alcatel has clearly keyed in on this.

Tellabs isn't having as much fun, given their BPON deals with Verizon have dried up as the telco moves to GPON. This came after they lost out on BellSouth fiber-to-the-curb (FTTC) business when AT&T took over and replaced BellSouth plans with U-Verse.

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cableties @ 2nd Apr 03:07PM:
Nice Brochure!

Yes, it's true, suggestive advertising DOES sell!
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odog @ 2nd Apr 03:10PM:
Sounds like the pricing negoiations went...

Not so well.

I bet VZ hammered them on price so badly Tellabs wasn't making money!
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anon @ 2nd Apr 03:22PM:
Full analysis of Tellabs GPON news here

Why Tellabs is right to quit its Verizon GPON job:

»blog.telephonyonline.com/unfilte···pon-job/
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JPuppy @ 2nd Apr 03:25PM:
Awesome

More upgrades to existing FiOS customers, when I still can't get it where I live!

I am getting hopeful though, I noticed all the utilities are marking out their underground runs in my neighborhood, and a few months back I thought I saw Verizon trucks putting fiber up on poles along a main road just outside of the neighborhood.
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MrSpock29 @ 2nd Apr 03:31PM:
Re: Awesome

said by JPuppy :

More upgrades to existing FiOS customers, when I still can't get it where I live!

I am getting hopeful though, I noticed all the utilities are marking out their underground runs in my neighborhood, and a few months back I thought I saw Verizon trucks putting fiber up on poles along a main road just outside of the neighborhood.
I thought your area had service, but I guess it wasn't in your area?

Nothing is in this county at all, although a recent article in the A.C. Press said that Atlantic and Cape May counties would start to see service next year. Doubtful that includes my area, unfortunately.
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Jehu @ 2nd Apr 03:40PM:
HAWT

That pic of lesbians is hot
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Lee GWB @ 2nd Apr 03:57PM:
What about current BPON users?

How dare they :) LOL
I only have BPON setup
Lee
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odog @ 2nd Apr 04:06PM:
Re: HAWT

said by Jehu :

That pic of lesbians is hot
true... they be watching VOD porn.
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Done_Posting @ 2nd Apr 04:14PM:
Tellabs GPON is not so hot...

We're experimenting with it at work as a replacement to our twitchy Calix GPON. So far I've been extremely unimpressed. Anything is better than Calix though; we've had nothing but trouble with their gear.

- Tate

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SteveCon @ 2nd Apr 04:30PM:
Re: Awesome

said by JPuppy :

More upgrades to existing FiOS customers, when I still can't get it where I live!

Nah - reread the part:

"All new builds in California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Texas this year will be GPON."

It's for *NEW* builds. My older BPON technology Fios is staying that way.
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bobgwen @ 2nd Apr 04:39PM:
Re: Awesome

I'll bet it will be a long time before it is in Bartow Florida
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KA3SGM @ 2nd Apr 04:51PM:
Good News For A Change !

Gee, I'm on my SIXTH (#6) (1,2,3,4,5,6) Tellabs ONT in only 2 years. :mad:

Their quality control has been terrible.

When Tellabs #6 eventually dies, I will gladly welcome a nice Motorola or Alcatel unit. :D

Sorry to all of the Tellabs fans out there, your experiences may have been different, but I have been through living hell with their equipment.

I am glad to see Verizon parting ways with them.
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EPS @ 2nd Apr 05:16PM:
Re: Awesome

Yes, only new builds starting this year- when we got FiOS installed here recently, the installer said we were among the first in the country to get GPON, which was neat. (Motorola ONT by the way)
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kyler13 @ 2nd Apr 06:36PM:
Re: Awesome

GPON is neat, but my interest lies in WDM-PON. The day I know I have my own 2.4Gbps link to the CO, then I'll get excited.
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annimossity @ 2nd Apr 06:45PM:
Re: Tellabs GPON is not so hot...

I didnt know FIOS was in CA?
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anon @ 2nd Apr 08:06PM:
Re: What about current BPON users?

said by Lee GWB :

How dare they :) LOL
I only have BPON setup
Lee
If you buy the $$ 50mbit $$ internet you get a free upgrade to gpon... the only service which works better on gpon vs bpon.
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PGHammer @ 2nd Apr 10:22PM:
Re: Awesome

said by SteveCon :

said by JPuppy :

More upgrades to existing FiOS customers, when I still can't get it where I live!

Nah - reread the part:

"All new builds in California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Texas this year will be GPON."

It's for *NEW* builds. My older BPON technology Fios is staying that way.
Actually, it's just waiting to be upgraded after the greenfield GPON-only builds. GPON is backward-compatible with BPON (so if you have mismatched equipment (BPON at one end and GPON at the other) you'll only see BPON speeds). If you have a CO with only GPON switchgear, but mixed NIDs, they will only need to swap out the BPON NIDs. That could very well be an issue in parts of MD/DE/NJ/NYS (such as the *infamous rural outliers*).
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Sammer @ 3rd Apr 12:13AM:
Re: HAWT

Much more interesting for us straight guys than the picture of the couple on the inside front cover, especially when they mention triple play.
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anon @ 4th Apr 03:22AM:
Re: What about current BPON users?

said by bp2gp :

said by Lee GWB :

How dare they :) LOL
I only have BPON setup
Lee
If you buy the $$ 50mbit $$ internet you get a free upgrade to gpon... the only service which works better on gpon vs bpon.
Well, if you buy a 30M x 5M plan, you get 30M x 5M, whether it's BPon or GPon. The good news is that FiOS users get their bandwidth for the most part, much more than any other ISP can say. I love FiOS.
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anon @ 4th Apr 03:23AM:
Re: Tellabs GPON is not so hot...

said by annimossity :

I didnt know FIOS was in CA?
You're kidding, right? ;-)

»/gmaps/fios

»www.fiberexperts.com/california-fios.html
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DataDork @ 4th Apr 03:36AM:
noooooooooooooooo!

I manage all three platforms.. i can tell you i enjoy working with tellabs.. moto and alcatel are fine, but tellabs was def the way to go. :(

sad day for me now.
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