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TK Junk Mail @ 9th Oct 06:39PM:
It's the weekend, Woo Woo!
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGkWeyOr_E
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Hpower @ 9th Oct 06:46PM:
OMG almost there
Got 1 hr 15 mins to go.....COMMON!!! LOL
All I want to do this weekend is play wow and sleep :D
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TKJunkMail @ 9th Oct 06:47PM:
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
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NY Tel @ 9th Oct 06:48PM:
TGIF
I don't normally say that but this week has been a busy one.
I am on a home improvement "roll" and can't wait to get back to it this weekend.
Also, my wife got a clean bill of health after a series of ultrasounds and CAT scans to rule out some nasty possibilities. For that, I am truly thankful. :) :)
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Sileet @ 9th Oct 07:04PM:
Re: It's the weekend, Woo Woo!
THATS ONLY IN THE MONIN
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JSRoman @ 9th Oct 07:04PM:
Starting to feel like winter in FL
Saturday, Oct 10
High: 96 °F RealFeel®: 112 °F
Partly sunny, warm and humid with the temperature breaking the record of 94 set in 1981
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Sileet @ 9th Oct 07:07PM:
Re: OMG almost there
53 minutes
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David @ 9th Oct 07:16PM:
I have to leave tonight, I am sorry to say.
But I will return monday, I ate some of the freeze dried chili and it's tore me up something bad!!
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albie @ 9th Oct 07:31PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Nobel is a proper name, doncha know.
It is named after the boy who made his fortune in dynamite.
The prize is awarded by Norwegians who must be famous for something, but I do not know what.
Awards are jokes doncha know, Chariots of Fire and Chicago received Academy Awards for Best Picture, who is watching those stupid DVD's on a regular basis.
Nobel does not mean N-O-B-L-E, it has been decades since we have had a NOBLE president, The Promise Breaking Liar President George Bush's dolt of son with the same name was not NOBLE and neither was the peanut brained Jimmah Carter or the great pretender, Albert Gore who also received the Nobel Prize.
President Barry ain't any more noble than that crowd, but he simply be the BLANKEST PAGE to occupy Bwilly CLinton's Oral Office since Calvin Coolige and everybody in the world seems to be rushing to fill in the all the blanks if that be possible.
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backfeed @ 9th Oct 07:33PM:
Triple Play year is up
Well, my second year of Comcast Triple play is up in November. I am unable to get another year signed up at the local office. SO I will be needing to contact retentions again to see if I can continue the deal. :(
I have the package just the way I want it with a single HD box with digital preferred, CDV and the Standard internet 6dn/1up.
Anybody have recently gone through this and have any tips for recent deals?
Putting off the call for another couple of days.....
Thoughts??
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backfeed @ 9th Oct 07:35PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
I agree....
WTF was the committee thinking?
:mad:
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tvtek @ 9th Oct 07:37PM:
Yay, its the weekend!
I have posted before but got to do it again!....
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfduFy26EE0
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truth @ 9th Oct 07:45PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right?
When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
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Mactron @ 9th Oct 07:47PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by backfeed :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
I agree....
WTF was the committee thinking?
:mad:
Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm Mmm Mmm ...
:( :uhh:
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MRCUR @ 9th Oct 07:48PM:
Re: Triple Play year is up
Mine is up the 15th. The local office said to call in around this time and they'll just renew it for another year (although the promo I have isn't offered anymore). I called and they said no so now I'm trying to get someone (anyone!) from ComcastCares on Twitter to respond but they haven't.
Too bad for Comcast really, I'd even go to the Premier package but they won't do anything. Guess I'll be calling CenturyLink and seeing that they have to offer... They've been sending tons of flyers recently.
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bcltoys @ 9th Oct 07:56PM:
BLACK.........
BLACK.........
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truth @ 9th Oct 07:59PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Mactron :said by backfeed :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
I agree....
WTF was the committee thinking?
:mad:
Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm Mmm Mmm ...
:( :uhh:
I too am afraid of non anglo-saxon names. Hurf durf hurf durf
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albie @ 9th Oct 08:01PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right?
When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
If Barry win a Nobel Peace Prize, it neither be GOOD OR BAD.
It simply be MEANINGLESS which coincides with this nation becoming as IMPOTENT in the world as it the DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS who hold OFFICE in that NATIONAL CESSPOOL know as Washington, D C.
You are fairly INSIGNIFICANT in your own right as far as that goes, as anyone who refers to FAUX NEWS or PMSNBC as something worth paying attention to is.
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JSRoman @ 9th Oct 08:03PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
I am sure there was no one more deserving.
You didn't have to watch FOX news, all the news outlets where saying, what the fuck are they smoking over there?
»www.reuters.com/article/topNews/···?sp=true
"The bestowal of one of the world's top accolades on Obama, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success after nearly nine months in office, was greeted with gasps from the audience at the announcement ceremony in Oslo."
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anon @ 9th Oct 08:09PM:
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jjeffeory @ 9th Oct 08:10PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
8-)
I'm scratching my head.
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jjeffeory @ 9th Oct 08:13PM:
Re: I have to leave tonight, I am sorry to say.
You need some chipotleeway ( Thanks South Park )!
I saw it advertised on South Park and I'm convinced that it will help you...
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truth @ 9th Oct 08:26PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Calm down, I was just making the comment in jest.
PMSNBC? Really, that doesn't even make any sense.
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albie @ 9th Oct 08:26PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Norway is an NEARLY and ALL WHITE country.
But it is SOCIALIST to it very marrow.
Only an UNDIVERSE SOCIALIST country as Norway could be so INFATUATED with an African American SOCIALIST with the Islamic moniker.
Barry not only gave them wet dreams, it got him the Nobel Prize.
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albie @ 9th Oct 08:30PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :
Calm down, I was just making the comment in jest.
PMSNBC? Really, that doesn't even make any sense.
OF COURSE IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
THAT IS RIGHT WING SPEAK, EL RUSHBO said it long before I threw it at you.
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truth @ 9th Oct 08:31PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :said by TKJunkMail :
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
This is affirmative action at its best, coming from the section 8 White House.
Honestly don't know why people call Republicans racist.
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tshirt @ 9th Oct 08:35PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Maybe next time it will be for actually making Peace, this time (according to the committee press release it was for giving hope (of peace) to the world.
After Bush, anything was relief, but Obama's promises (and actions, so far) are of seeking dialog and finding a common ground with most civilized countries/people.
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 08:38PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :said by Elcabong :said by TKJunkMail :
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
This is affirmative action at its best, coming from the section 8 White House.
Honestly don't know why people call Republicans racist.
Ding, ding, ding, we have another winner of the pull your race card out contest! Anything to divert attention form the failure and embarrassment called Obama. Can you dig any deeper into the barrel, please? Please confirm some more the excuses and cries form the left when this nation is plunged deeper into a depression than when Jimmy Carter was president. And the crowd roars!
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 08:41PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right?
When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
Wow, so your first thought actually involved Fox News... very telling.
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albie @ 9th Oct 08:43PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :said by Elcabong :said by TKJunkMail :
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
This is affirmative action at its best, coming from the section 8 White House.
Honestly don't know why people call Republicans racist.
Me neither, if there be a racist in either in either party, he be in the White House.
Barry threw his old white grandmama under the bus by calling her a typical white person, he did so in defense of a Marxist who disguised his politics in the theology of Black Liberation Theology.
I am white, if I EVER USED THE TERM TYPICAL BLACK PERSON, I expect the POLITICALLY CORRECT POLICE, which you may be a member to come down on me like a TON of BRICKS not only calling me a RACIST, but attempting to prosecute me in VIOLATION of the First Amendment which seems to only apply to lefty pinkos of color and a certain sexual preference.
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MysticGogeta @ 9th Oct 08:43PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Oh boy this will spark a intelligent conversation /end rant
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 08:46PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by tshirt :
but Obama's promises (and actions, so far) are of seeking dialog and finding a common ground with most civilized countries/people.
Yeah, like Cuba, North Korea, China, Iran, terrorists, and cutting off our friends like Honduras. Very civilized group of folks who jail or kill anyone who disagrees with their government. A wise and tactical strategy.
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truth @ 9th Oct 08:57PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :
Ding, ding, ding, we have another winner of the pull your race card out contest! Anything to divert attention form the failure and embarrassment called Obama. Can you dig any deeper into the barrel, please? Please confirm some more the excuses and cries form the left when this nation is plunged deeper into a depression than when Jimmy Carter was president. And the crowd roars!
Maybe I misunderstood the 'section 8 white house' comment. Please explain it for me because it sounds like a funny joke I'm missing out on! :)
Going with your logic, Ronald Reagan has been the one who has plunged us the deepest into recession. It was during his presidency that the unemployment rate reached 10.8%. That was more than a year into the presidency even!
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truth @ 9th Oct 09:02PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right?
When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
Wow, so your first thought actually involved Fox News... very telling.
Of course it was my first thought, it is the most trusted, fair and balanced, unafraid, highest rated, fearless, patriotic news channel right?
Elcabong - if I were to post a link showing that both O'reilly and Olbermann are corporate shills for the exact same reason, since it was the same exact dispute; would you believe it fully, or just the part criticizing Olbermann?
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:03PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Rofl, joke aren't funny unless they're about Bush, ok I get it now, hope you do too.
Reagan didn't plunge this country into any recession or unemployment, he brought in one of the best decades ever for American prosperity. One which Obama will never achieve as he will be voted out in 3 years.
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:05PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :
Of course it was my first thought, it is the most trusted, fair and balanced, unafraid, highest rated, fearless, patriotic news channel right?
I have brought another one to our side, Obe Wan.
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hayabusa3303 @ 9th Oct 09:07PM:
Just preorder
the Modern warfare 2 xbox.
Now i just have to wait a month for it. :( :D
Anyone want to help me bring home a server rack tommorrow? :D
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:12PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Replying to yourself is the first sign of madness. :D
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:15PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
I think they were saying that by winning the election and changing the political direction of the United States of America he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year.
Actually I have a hard time disagreeing with that.
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me1212 @ 9th Oct 09:16PM:
That was fun.
Today five girls from my gaming club and two guys(one WAS me) did the caramelldansen dance. It was fun, but I may have to kill myself now. ;) Or maybe not IDK. I wonder when it will be on the youtube, I sw some1 taking video.
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NY Tel @ 9th Oct 09:17PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by KrK :
Replying to yourself is the first sign of madness. :D
Reporting yourself to the mods is the second.... :p
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truth @ 9th Oct 09:17PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :
Rofl, joke aren't funny unless they're about Bush, ok I get it now, hope you do too.
Reagan didn't plunge this country into any recession or unemployment, he brought in one of the best decades ever for American prosperity. One which Obama will never achieve as he will be voted out in 3 years.
??? Where did I say that? Damn all I wanted was for you to explain a joke because I wanted to laugh. :huh:
In regards to the 2nd paragraph; I was just trying to use your logic with regards to who started recessions - see you're blaming Obama because times are bad now, but where did it all start going downhill? During Bush's presidency. Just reverse roles for carter/reagan. When you disagree with this please just answer one question; why is Obama responsible for the recession?
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:19PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by KrK :
I think they were saying that by winning the election and changing the political direction of the United States of America he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year.
Actually I have a hard time disagreeing with that.
Roflmao
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truth @ 9th Oct 09:19PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Please answer the question in that post.
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:23PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :said by Elcabong :
Rofl, joke aren't funny unless they're about Bush, ok I get it now, hope you do too.
Reagan didn't plunge this country into any recession or unemployment, he brought in one of the best decades ever for American prosperity. One which Obama will never achieve as he will be voted out in 3 years.
??? Where did I say that? Damn all I wanted was for you to explain a joke because I wanted to laugh. :huh:
In regards to the 2nd paragraph; I was just trying to use your logic with regards to who started recessions - see you're blaming Obama because times are bad now, but where did it all start going downhill? During Bush's presidency. Just reverse roles for carter/reagan. When you disagree with this please just answer one question; why is Obama responsible for the recession?
You didn't read my post thoroughly, only the way you wanted to read it. I said, "when the nation IS plunged deeper into..." Please read before making accusations.
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:25PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
I doubt it. You come off as a very angry person when there's anything positive about Obama.... at least that's the way it reads to me.... my opinion.
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albie @ 9th Oct 09:27PM:
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REAGAN BE THE BOOGEYMAN of the LIBERAL LEFT.
Reagan be no boogeyman, he was the MAN.
He was CHANGE I COULD BELIEVE IN.
He brought the country together.
HOW YOU ASK?
There was something called REAGAN DEMOCRATS.
ASS CLOWNS like DADDY BUSH AND HIS DOLT son did not have Bush Democrats.
A LYING LOW LIFE SON OF A WHORE like BWILLY CLINTON did not have any CLinton Democrats.
AND THE BLANKEST PAGE SINCE SILENT CAL COOLIDGE has no BARRY REPUBLICANS..
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Laughing Man @ 9th Oct 09:28PM:
Re: That was fun.
You have a lot more guts than I do :D
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu0sgQTrF7c
Edit: Anything like this?
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:30PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by tshirt :
Maybe next time it will be for actually making Peace, this time (according to the committee press release it was for giving hope (of peace) to the world.
After Bush, anything was relief, but Obama's promises (and actions, so far) are of seeking dialog and finding a common ground with most civilized countries/people.
Please don't inject truth and rationality into this thread. You'll spoil the effect!
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:32PM:
Re: BLACK.........
... and Blue.
And who knows which is which and who is who.
Up and down.
But in the end it's only round and round.
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried.
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside.
Down and out
It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about.
With, without.
And who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about?
Out of the way, it's a busy day
I've got things on my mind.
For the want of the price of tea and a slice
The old man died.
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:33PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by KrK :
I doubt it. You come off as a very angry person when there's anything positive about Obama.... at least that's the way it reads to me.... my opinion.
Roflmao.
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truth @ 9th Oct 09:38PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :said by truth :said by Elcabong :
Rofl, joke aren't funny unless they're about Bush, ok I get it now, hope you do too.
Reagan didn't plunge this country into any recession or unemployment, he brought in one of the best decades ever for American prosperity. One which Obama will never achieve as he will be voted out in 3 years.
??? Where did I say that? Damn all I wanted was for you to explain a joke because I wanted to laugh. :huh:
In regards to the 2nd paragraph; I was just trying to use your logic with regards to who started recessions - see you're blaming Obama because times are bad now, but where did it all start going downhill? During Bush's presidency. Just reverse roles for carter/reagan. When you disagree with this please just answer one question; why is Obama responsible for the recession?
You didn't read my post thoroughly, only the way you wanted to read it. I said, "when the nation IS plunged deeper into..." Please read before making accusations.
Ok... but still not as 'deep into' it as during reagan's term.
*sigh* The point I was trying to make was that you can't get too upset at Obama for the economy getting worse under him, when the same exact thing happened under reagan (the republcian jesus).
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N3OGH @ 9th Oct 09:40PM:
Obama the Muslum, ruining America from inside out!!
HAW HAW, got your attention.
I just wanted everyone to enjoy the picture of my newest friends, "Buzz" and "Gordo".
Gordo has the white ear, while Buzz is the traditional "Tuxedo" with the item in his mouth. Had them since August. My best friend died in July, and I decided to get litter mates.
At first it was a bit rocky. A few bathroom "accidents", but with the exception of a busted screen, and a destroyed Polk speaker it's been smooth sailing since. When I open my bedroom door in the morning, it's a full frontal kitten assault. I'm a amazed at how much they have taken to me. I miss my old friend, but bringing new friends into my home was so the right thing to do.
Their mother was hit by a car when they were but a few weeks old, and they had to be hand weened by a foster family at Forgotten Cats in Northern DE/SE PA. They're great kittens, and I have no doubt they will be awesome cats when they reach adulthood. The few weeks the house was empty was so painful. I still mourn the loss of my friend of 15 years back in July. Post here.
»Goodby little buddy, good riddance bad week
But, these little guys might not have found a home that loves them so much if not for the passing of my friend. Wow, I can really say I loved that cat like family. He was so special. But I have young ones to look after. Looking back on things a few short months ago, I wouldn't be enjoying watching these guys grow up in front of me had my old friend not left my life.
So much to ponder. The bottom line is, these little guys are a barrel of laughs. I love them ;)....
They rock....
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KrK @ 9th Oct 09:42PM:
Re: Yay, its the weekend!
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaeTt7Flamg
[Dance] [Dance] [Revolution]
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Elcabong @ 9th Oct 09:49PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :
Ok... but still not as 'deep into' it as during reagan's term.
*sigh* The point I was trying to make was that you can't get too upset at Obama for the economy getting worse under him, when the same exact thing happened under reagan (the republcian jesus).
Reagan inherited the mess Carter created and brought the country greater prosperity and respect than it had for a very long time. He accomplished more than Obama will ever accomplish and would never accept accolades that weren't merited. On the other hand, the mess that Obama has on his hands was created by Clinton, and the democrats not Bush.
You seem to leave out that Congress makes the laws and we have had a democrat congress for about 4 years now without fullfilling any the promises that got them elected, just like Obama. According to your logic, the democrats are the ones responsible for the depressions we're in right now.
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truth @ 9th Oct 09:50PM:
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Ok....
I was just making a comparison of the unemployment rates, not making him out to be some boogey man. I did it to show that even under the republican jesus, reagan, the economy still got worse during the start of his term. Trying to demonstrate it's stupid to fault the president who inherited the recession. Just stating some simple facts.
Clinton didn't have any 'Clinton democrats?' If you say so.
Do you think calling people who you don't like stupid names helps or hurts your point? At least put some thought into it.
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TKJunkMail @ 9th Oct 09:52PM:
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»www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWBHApoKsLE
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albie @ 9th Oct 10:00PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by truth :
Ok... but still not as 'deep into' it as during reagan's term.
*sigh* The point I was trying to make was that you can't get too upset at Obama for the economy getting worse under him, when the same exact thing happened under reagan (the republcian jesus).
You are a Liberal, A DISHONEST ONE.
I embrace the TRUTH when it is presented by ANYONE.
I CANNOT argrue with the truth of the likes of Christopher Hitchens or Camille Paglia.
I CANNOT argue with the truth of Dennis Kucinich who PRAISED REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS who voted with him against the ABOMINABLE banking bailot.
The Bushes were elitist jerks.
Obama is an elitist jerk.
Republicans criticized Barry the jerk for voting present so many times in the Illinois legislature, a criticism for which there is no defense.
DO NOT DEFEND BARRY, he is INDEFENSIBLE as was his predecessor the reformed drunk and incurable slacker Daddy's Bush dolt son, George.
Bwilly Clinton CONSPIRED with REPUBLICANS to sell this country out with NAFTA.
Pat Buchanan and Jesse Jackson found themselves on the same side of that debate and Pat Buchanan called it the Halloween coalition.
GET REAL DUDE.
GET HONEST.
BARRY and his party is no BETTER THAN those that they replaced.
To defend THEM is as ignorant as defending those that they replaced.
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truth @ 9th Oct 10:01PM:
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said by Elcabong :said by truth :
Ok... but still not as 'deep into' it as during reagan's term.
*sigh* The point I was trying to make was that you can't get too upset at Obama for the economy getting worse under him, when the same exact thing happened under reagan (the republcian jesus).
Reagan inherited the mess Carter created and brought the country greater prosperity and respect than it had for a very long time. He accomplished more than Obama will ever accomplish and would never accept accolades that weren't merited. On the other hand, the mess that Obama has on his hands was created by Clinton, and the democrats not Bush.
You seem to leave out that Congress makes the laws and we have had a democrat congress for about 4 years now without fullfilling any the promises that got them elected, just like Obama. According to your logic, the democrats are the ones responsible for the depressions we're in right now.
I'm not feeling masochistic enough right now to reply to this. Maybe later lol.
Elcabong have republicans ever done anything wrong? I'm sensing they haven't.
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amigo_boy @ 9th Oct 10:03PM:
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said by Elcabong :
Congress makes the laws and we have had a democrat congress for about 4 years now ...
That's not true. Democrats didn't control Congress until the 110th Congress, Jan. 2007. The first time that happened since the 103rd Congress ending Jan. 1995.
EDIT: The Republican party controlled both chambers of Congress for more than 10 of those 12 years. Between Jan. 2001 to Jan. 2003 Dems gained control of the Senate for a portion of those 2 years. Except for that brief period, Rs controlled both chambers for 12 years ending Jan. 2007.
Mark
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me1212 @ 9th Oct 10:05PM:
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said by Laughing Man :
You have a lot more guts than I do :D
We tried to get more guys but they said no. IDK y, if positioned right(which I of course was) you got to stare @ the girls and they were all hot and bouncy. :D
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Laughing Man @ 9th Oct 10:06PM:
Re: BLACK.........
Pink Floyd - Us And Them.
Excellent song.
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backfeed @ 9th Oct 10:23PM:
Re: Obama the Muslum, ruining America from inside out!!
Congrats on your new friends...My little buddy is 14 yrs old now. I know that I will have to face the day when he will no longer be in our lives. :( He is a blue tabby that we rescued as a 6 week old.
I read your sad post from July, I am sorry I missed it then and was not able to offer you some condolences, we become so very attached to these little guys, and I am sure I will need some when I lose Buster.
Good luck with Buzz and Gordo, it sounds like you are off to a great start!! :D
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albie @ 9th Oct 10:28PM:
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said by truth :
Ok....
I was just making a comparison of the unemployment rates, not making him out to be some boogey man. I did it to show that even under the republican jesus, reagan, the economy still got worse during the start of his term. Trying to demonstrate it's stupid to fault the president who inherited the recession. Just stating some simple facts.
Clinton didn't have any 'Clinton democrats?' If you say so.
Do you think calling people who you don't like stupid names helps or hurts your point? At least put some thought into it.
Good point, can you can read.
Obviously, I meant Clinton Republicans.
You must have been educated like me in the public schools when they more functioned in education, not just a indoctrinating tool of the social welfare state.
I do not think I called anyone any stupid names, beyond the stupid people who occupy elected office in the country.
The people who are the smartest most decent people that I know are the people standing in line to apply for a job that pays a decent wage.
The most dishonest people are those lying cheating lazy scumbags who holds elected office, whether they choose to call themselves Democrats or Republicans, they are the lying dishonest scum of the earth.
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truth @ 9th Oct 10:30PM:
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said by albie :said by truth :
Ok... but still not as 'deep into' it as during reagan's term.
*sigh* The point I was trying to make was that you can't get too upset at Obama for the economy getting worse under him, when the same exact thing happened under reagan (the republcian jesus).
You are a Liberal, A DISHONEST ONE.
I embrace the TRUTH when it is presented by ANYONE.
Yes I'm lying about the 10.8% unemployment rate during 1982, over a year after reagan was sworn in. You got me.
edit; no wait I better not use sarcasm because Elcabong and albie are going to be completely blind to it and start attacking me for 'lying' about the unemployment rate. »research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/da···RATE.txt
1981-02-01 7.4
1981-03-01 7.4
1981-04-01 7.2
1981-05-01 7.5
1981-06-01 7.5
1981-07-01 7.2
1981-08-01 7.4
1981-09-01 7.6
1981-10-01 7.9
1981-11-01 8.3
1981-12-01 8.5
1982-01-01 8.6
1982-02-01 8.9
1982-03-01 9.0
1982-04-01 9.3
1982-05-01 9.4
1982-06-01 9.6
1982-07-01 9.8
1982-08-01 9.8
1982-09-01 10.1
1982-10-01 10.4
1982-11-01 10.8
1982-12-01 10.8
1983-01-01 10.4
1983-02-01 10.4
Wow look at the steady increase during the start. Over 3% increase in 14 month period. The point is it's a bit unfair to blame a president for inheriting a recession. Beleive it or not I'm not trying to trash reagan with this, just showing a bad recession can happen to any president, even reagan!
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truth @ 9th Oct 10:33PM:
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said by albie :
The most dishonest people are those lying cheating lazy scumbags who holds elected office, whether they choose to call themselves Democrats or Republicans, they are the lying dishonest scum of the earth.
No disagreement here.
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amigo_boy @ 9th Oct 10:38PM:
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said by truth :
Beleive it or not I'm not trying to trash reagan with this, just showing a bad recession can happen to any president, even reagan!
Employment is always a lagging indicator. We had good employment back in Nov./Dec. 2008 even though we were in the midst of a recession. The economy has improved significantly today, but employment is worsening.
The recession you refer to was from July 1981 to November 1982.
As you see from your figures, unemployment continued to rise even though the recession had officially ended.
It always works that way.
Mark
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truth @ 9th Oct 10:38PM:
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said by TKJunkMail :
(youtube clip)
*Hardcore conservative posts this video*
*still complains about Obama turning the country communist*
*complains about liberal NBC*
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Flintstone @ 9th Oct 10:48PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
He deserves the Nobel Pizza Prize. :uhh:
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MRCUR @ 9th Oct 11:09PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Have you seen his avatar?
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amigo_boy @ 9th Oct 11:38PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by TKJunkMail :
Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
I saw Pat Buchanan on the McGlaughlin group. He basically said this was an anti-award directed at former President Bush.
Just goes to show how bad President Bush was. You can say the Nobel committee diminished the value and legitimacy of the award. That may be true. But, once again, it goes to show how bad President Bush was that the committee would undermine itself just to jab Bush.
I agree with "Elkabong" that Obama would demonstrate class by declining the award. It would show that he's above being part of a back-handed swipe like that. And, show that even though President Bush rode the short bus, he was still President and deserves more respect from a future President.
Mark
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cline3621 @ 10th Oct 12:55AM:
Nobel Prize
I think my avatar shows how I feel about Obama winning the Nobel Prize. Other posters on this subject show my feelings on it. I just want to know, is he going to wear the medal like Flavor Flav from now on?
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Noah Vail @ 10th Oct 01:37AM:
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said by MRCUR :
Have you seen his avatar?
O'Bama has an Avatar?
I wonder what it would look like.
NV
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Noah Vail @ 10th Oct 01:51AM:
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said by KrK :
he's made a bigger contribution to World peace then anyone else in the world could have this year.
So it's the SIZE of the contribution that makes this meaningful.
I would have thought it was the EFFECTIVENESS of the contribution, using RESULTS to gauge a positive result.
Of course it wasn't any of the above. All the dialog from the Nobel-erites seems to indicate that it was awarded for what The Committee hopes O'Bama would accomplish.
In other words, the Norwegians desire to impress their influence upon future world events (as does the media).
In response, Presient O'Bama wasted - not a second - in accepting the award as a 'Call to Arms' to do exactly that. He has taken their cause as his own (until he doesn't; depending on the desires of other powers).
The lesson?
Cash and hookers aren't the only commodities in the political marketplace.
NV
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evgray @ 10th Oct 02:14AM:
Still no weekend!!
I have to work Sat. Day and i usually work graveyards. no sleep for me!! and have t be there Sun. night.
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amigo_boy @ 10th Oct 02:43AM:
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said by Noah Vail :
In other words, the Norwegians desire to impress their influence upon future world events (as does the media).
I think that's a good point. How will this award influence the President's future policy decisions? Will he put more effort into the proposals/promises which the award was based upon just so his award isn't tarnished? So it won't be "asterisked" (like that baseball player's record-breaking home run), footnoted with an explanation which diminishes the achievement?
It seems like he's been compromised.
Mark
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ISurfTooMuch @ 10th Oct 04:21AM:
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said by Elcabong :
Yeah, like Cuba, North Korea, China, Iran, terrorists, and cutting off our friends like Honduras. Very civilized group of folks who jail or kill anyone who disagrees with their government. A wise and tactical strategy.
Which friends in Honduras are you speaking of, the democratically-elected president or the military that overthrew him in Central America's first coup in over a decade? Yes, I realize the president's popularity there had hit rock bottom and he was on shaky legal ground for his proposed referendum, but that does not justify a coup. These things are supposed to be worked out in the courts, not by the army sending him packing at gunpoint.
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KrK @ 10th Oct 07:53AM:
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The lesson: If it's about Obama, you'll have to bash away.
On every thread.
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mrkevin @ 10th Oct 08:30AM:
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said by KrK :
The lesson: If it's about Obama, you'll have to bash away.
On every thread.
Lesson 2: Blame Bush for everything
Lesson 3: If you cannot win your argument with facts:
*fire some personal attacks
*just keep saying "you don't get it"
*or just fall back on lesson 2
Lesson 4: try to always think with your emotions instead of your head.
Lesson 5: go back to lesson 2 and repeat
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KrK @ 10th Oct 08:34AM:
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Thanks for revealing your "discussion tips." I'll have to remember that is your blueprint for all posts.
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mrkevin @ 10th Oct 08:38AM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
It's the content. not who's bringing it to you.
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mrkevin @ 10th Oct 08:52AM:
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said by KrK :
Thanks for revealing your "discussion tips." I'll have to remember that is your blueprint for all posts.
Good thinking!
I'll send you my book "How to survive Liberal dribble"
Or the one I'm working on now "Liberal Liability"
EDIT- Obama...we don't deserve such a great President :uhh:
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garywk @ 10th Oct 08:58AM:
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You missed the context of what truth said. That's what you get for getting your news from only liberal sources.
There are teachers in the US spending their class time having their students sing political indoctrination songs about Obama. One song is set to the music of The Battle Hymn of the Republic and another one is a chant that has the exact phrase that truth put in his post. It's chanted over and over again.
It's pretty scary when our educational system is having students chant and sing slogans about politicians as part of their schooling. That has no place in our schools. Period.
I went back to school after ~30 years in 2001 and was shocked at the political indoctrination that was going on in our public school system. I took a political science class and the teacher did nothing but teach that the US is, and always has been, evil. She would twist facts of history out of time, place, and context, time and time again, and other times just flat out lie. As I'm a US, WWI, and WWII history buff, and knew she was lying I'd argue her "talking" points with her and often proved her wrong. She flunked me out of her class even though my daily work and grasp of the historical facts were of higher quality than those sitting around me, and they were getting high scores.
As far as I'm concerned what that woman was doing in that class was treasonous.
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KrK @ 10th Oct 09:02AM:
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I see you're following your rules. Oh you forgot to use the word "Obama" at least once, though.
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garywk @ 10th Oct 09:05AM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?
As long as the Marxists and Socialists are singing Obama's praises, then he's taking the wrong course.
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KrK @ 10th Oct 09:08AM:
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said by garywk :
So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?
No, that was the policy of the former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!
Congratulations Obama!
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Elcabong @ 10th Oct 09:14AM:
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said by ISurfTooMuch :said by Elcabong :
Yeah, like Cuba, North Korea, China, Iran, terrorists, and cutting off our friends like Honduras. Very civilized group of folks who jail or kill anyone who disagrees with their government. A wise and tactical strategy.
Which friends in Honduras are you speaking of, the democratically-elected president or the military that overthrew him in Central America's first coup in over a decade? Yes, I realize the president's popularity there had hit rock bottom and he was on shaky legal ground for his proposed referendum, but that does not justify a coup. These things are supposed to be worked out in the courts, not by the army sending him packing at gunpoint.
It certainly did, as the president was trying to overthrow the constitution and do a Chavez number on Honduras. He deserved to be ousted as his country was facing becoming a communist shithole just like Venezuela and Cuba.
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Elcabong @ 10th Oct 09:24AM:
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Rofl, all of you lefties try to defend obama with going back and blaming former presidents. But none of you can actually defend an empty suit of a liar like obama. All the democrats you have voted in the past 4 years have not kept ANY of the ideals you voted them in for:
1. No closing of Guantamo
2. No bringing the troops home
3. No ending the war in Iraq
4. No ending the war in Afghanistan
5. No global warming farce agreements with other countries
6. No transpareniy in the White House (in fact, the secrecy is worst than when Bush was in)
The list is almost endless.
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»www.brusselsjournal.com/
Kahane Was Right: Zionism Is The Only Way***G-d Bless The USA & ISRAEL
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Elcabong @ 10th Oct 09:32AM:
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said by KrK :said by garywk :
So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?
No, that was the policy of the
former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!
Congratulations Obama! Yeah, appeasing enemies who want America destroyed, and turning his back on our friends and allies while China, Iran, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea make alliances against us. That's real intelligent diplomacy and foreign affairs management. The kind a naive, inexperienced liberal, self absorbed, pompous fool makes in order to be liked by his foes in the hopes he may not get kicked in the face. This nobel award is just the thing he needs in order to be discovered for the idiot that he is.
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»www.brusselsjournal.com/
Kahane Was Right: Zionism Is The Only Way***G-d Bless The USA & ISRAEL
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Noah Vail @ 10th Oct 09:38AM:
Re: Starting to feel like winter in FL
said by JSRoman :
Saturday, Oct 10
High: 96 °F RealFeel®: 112 °F
Partly sunny, warm and humid with the temperature breaking the record of 94 set in 1981
We're back to Gloabal Warming again. With so much ice missing the sea levels has risen as predicted and Florida is now limited to a small strip of islands rising from it's middle.
You'd think the media would cover that.
NV
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Noah Vail @ 10th Oct 10:03AM:
C'mon bucko. Don't you want a Health Care plan?
The White House finds a "plan B" to market Universal Health Care to the nation
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzoPUHKZTNM
NV
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I call it the Crapture.
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Elcabong @ 10th Oct 11:12AM:
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said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
(youtube clip)
*Hardcore conservative posts this video*
*still complains about Obama turning the country communist*
*complains about liberal NBC*
Again, only jokes about Bush are funny while the same jokes about obama aren't. Really shows your one sidedness even though you still try to act as if you're some sort of neutral voice. The clip is funny as hell and telling as even the liberals in the media are catching on to this farce called a president. What a sad mistake and embarrassment for those who had the kool-aid brains to vote for him. I'm still laughing at all of you.
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»www.brusselsjournal.com/
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Dread @ 10th Oct 12:23PM:
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You have Fox news as an avatar, you are now irrelevant lol
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garywk @ 10th Oct 01:34PM:
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said by KrK :said by garywk :
So, in your estimation, the correct foreign policy course for the US to pursue should be to appease its enemies and alienate its friends?
No, that was the policy of the
former administration.. We're trying to repair that damage now, apparently some people have noticed!
Congratulations Obama! You will have to explain that one. The only cheering I see is coming from Socialists and Marxists, the natural enemies of the US.
Before the Iraq war every intelligence service in the world believed the same thing the US did. They all believed good old Saddam had WMDs. Those countries who ended up criticizing the war were those who didn't like losing the money they were making selling banned weapons and technology to Saddam. Their objections were based on their financial losses, even though they tried hard to obscure that fact.
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garywk @ 10th Oct 01:45PM:
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said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
"If Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize then so does every Miss America contestant who babbles about world peace."
Because Obama is in no position to actually help foster world peace right?
When I read he won it this morning I thought to myself; I don't see why this would be a bad thing, but I know foxnews will tell me why later today.
Show me, historically, where appeasement actually led to a mutually beneficial peace between nations where one of the two was determined to have war.
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Corona @ 10th Oct 01:52PM:
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The Nobel Peace Prize has officially jumped the shark.
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garywk @ 10th Oct 01:58PM:
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Yeah, SNL is a such a well-known hotbed of conservative political thought and philosophy that it's a wonder they didn't come up with this a week after Obama was elected.
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amigo_boy @ 10th Oct 03:16PM:
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said by garywk :
Show me, historically, where appeasement actually led to a mutually beneficial peace between nations where one of the two was determined to have war.
Your logic is faulty. You don't know (with certainty) who's "determined to have war" until they declare war (or attack). It ignores the fact that a heavy-handed approach can cause nations who may be defensive (or antagonistic) to escalate. Therefore, a diplomatic approach could have averted escalation to war. But, there's no way to prove that using your logic.
Being nice doesn't always work. Look at N. Korea. They've been gaming the West for over a decade. We either provide aid, or they pursue their nuclear ambitions. Even after providing aid in return for dismantling their facilities, they're now rebuilding their facilities (to negotiate for more aid).
Mark
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amigo_boy @ 10th Oct 03:25PM:
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said by Elcabong :said by ISurfTooMuch :said by Elcabong :
Yeah, like Cuba, North Korea, China, Iran, terrorists, and cutting off our friends like Honduras. Very civilized group of folks who jail or kill anyone who disagrees with their government. A wise and tactical strategy.
Which friends in Honduras are you speaking of, the democratically-elected president or the military that overthrew him in Central America's first coup in over a decade? Yes, I realize the president's popularity there had hit rock bottom and he was on shaky legal ground for his proposed referendum, but that does not justify a coup. These things are supposed to be worked out in the courts, not by the army sending him packing at gunpoint.
It certainly did, as the president was trying to overthrow the constitution and do a Chavez number on Honduras. He deserved to be ousted as his country was facing becoming a communist sh*thole just like Venezuela and Cuba.
From what I've read, the Honduran Supreme Court ordered the President's detention, not exile.
There was definitely a Constitutional crisis. It sounds like it became a coup when the military exceeded its authority by deporting him, replacing him with the former president, etc., instead of holding him for trial and allowing the natural line of succession.
It's always interesting to hear Conservatives claim they uniquely revere Constitutional rule, and then justify violating it just because it would have protected someone they disagree with.
Mark
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amigo_boy @ 10th Oct 03:57PM:
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said by garywk :
I went back to school after ~30 years in 2001 and was shocked at the political indoctrination that was going on in our public school system. I took a political science class and the teacher did nothing but teach that the US is, and always has been, evil. She would twist facts of history out of time, place, and context, time and time again, and other times just flat out lie.
I don't see that at classes I've taken at my local community and state college. What I usually see is people who've grown accustomed to "group think" who have difficulty considering alternative views.
An example is the prevalent notion that the founders opposed "big government" when the reality is that they ditched relatively libertarian "small government" (articles of confederation) after just 12 years, in favor of a relatively gargantuan government (1789 federal, constitutional government). The founding generation embraced big government like no other generation since (except, perhaps the Civil War generation who embraced coercing states into the union).
What I see is that some person's view of history is controlled by their political ideology. If they have a strong, biased political ideology they're less capable of viewing history from an unbiased viewpoint. All of history has to lead toward their current (political) worldview. Their political ideology explains history, not the other way around.
Mark
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ISurfTooMuch @ 10th Oct 05:44PM:
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Although I have not read Honduras' constitution, I would be fairly certain it has a provision for impeaching a sitting president. If it does, I fail to see why such a mechanism couldn't have been used in this case. Congress was opposed to him, which means he likely would have been impeached and removed in very short order.
And, as I recall, the president was trying to hold a referendum on whether the constitution should be changed to allow him to seek another term. The Supreme Court said he could not legally hold a binding referendum in the manner he was choosing to do. His response was that it would then be a non-binding vote to gauge public opinion. I'm not going to get into whether this violated Honduran law, but it sure doesn't look like some imminent threat that could justify a coup. It looks more to me like the military wanted him gone, and this was the pretext they needed.
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ISurfTooMuch @ 10th Oct 05:47PM:
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I totally agree with you. There is a certain segment of our population who thinks an open, democratic society is fine when times are good, but when the chips are down, then they support whatever measures they feel will accomplish their goals, even if those measures are clearly illegal.
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amigo_boy @ 10th Oct 06:24PM:
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said by ISurfTooMuch :
I totally agree with you. There is a certain segment of our population who thinks an open, democratic society is fine when times are good, but when the chips are down, then they support whatever measures they feel will accomplish their goals, even if those measures are clearly illegal.
I might be among that segment. :) I feel the constitution exists to serve us, not us to serve it. In that sense, I believe it's a living, breathing document, with expanding and contracting rights based upon circumstances. (Lincoln suspending Habeas Corpus even though that power is reserved exclusively to the Legislative branch; Roosevelt violating the Neutrality Act; The disconnect between the Executive's inherent power of surveillance and the Legislative's power to create a framework within which surveillance should be conducted under normal circumstances.).
I just take exception to the huff-and-puff crowd who insist they revere the Constitution (unlike liberals), and then proceed to justify all the instances where Constitutions are trampled.
In the case of Honduras, the problem is that neither side is better than the other.
- The Right Wing coup has enacted indefinite curfews, suspended civil rights. Reenacted death squads (to reinstall terror among the population). Shut down opposition media.
They've claimed Zeyala wanted to amend the Constitution to increase term limits (to benefit himself), when it was a non-binding "poll" to gauge public opinion for a Constitutional Convention which would have been held after the Presidential election (Zeyala couldn't have immediately benefited from any term limits coming from such a con-con.).
His successor was a part of a group openly pushing for extending term limits in 1985 to directly benefit the President which he was affiliated with. That effort ended when the military got involved.
They exiled Zeyala when the Constitution prohibits that.
The Supreme Court is corrupt, appointed by the two political parties to 7-year terms. This creates an environment of political favors and loyalties (just like we had when US Senators were appointed by State legislatures back in the 1910s, before a Constitutional amendment made then subject to popular vote.).
The legislature voted to impeach/remove Zeyala only after the SC issued a sealed/secret order for Zeyala's arrest, and after a document appeared professing to be Zeyala's resignation (but uncontestable from exile). Clearly the legislature had the power to impeach and this would have been the logical method to remove Zeyala (instead of using the Judiciary to cause an arrest; then forced exile, which the coup leaders say they don't know who ordered; then impeachment after a so-called resignation letter; an impeachment by a show of hands instead of recorded vote.)
Right now, the coup leaders know they can't sustain the massive international backlash which exists. In order to return control to Zeyala they're considering a proposal which would make his successor a legislator for life. (Just a form of payola.).
- Zeyala wasn't much better.
This is like the Allende/Pinochet affair. The coup leaders broke the law. But, Allende brought it on by going too far too fast.
Latin American politics is like this. There's no respect for opposition groups. Whoever wins believes they won the lottery and can govern to the maximum of their agenda, not to accommodate both sides. It's like the wealthy families who control most Latin American countries, and own 99% of the wealth. They don't feel any reason to create an environment of competition and more equitable living standards. "I got mine. Screw everyone else."
Zeyala was right to support moving toward greater social equity. But, like most movements in Latin America, he disregarded the political reality and went too far, too fast.
Mark
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truth @ 10th Oct 06:24PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
Yeah after he goes through the all the careful dissemination, its just coincidence that what he believes happens to always agree with fox news!
PS: elcabong I love how you ignored my two attempts to see if you were anything but a republican/foxnews shill.
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truth @ 10th Oct 06:28PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :
Rofl, all of you lefties try to defend obama with going back and blaming former presidents. But none of you can actually defend an empty suit of a liar like obama. All the democrats you have voted in the past 4 years have not kept ANY of the ideals you voted them in for:
1. No closing of Guantamo
2. No bringing the troops home
3. No ending the war in Iraq
4. No ending the war in Afghanistan
5. No global warming farce agreements with other countries
6. No transpareniy in the White House (in fact, the secrecy is worst than when Bush was in)
The list is almost endless.
I'm pretty sure I've stated being disappointed about this and more. You should also throw in health care in your list.
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truth @ 10th Oct 06:38PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :said by truth :said by TKJunkMail :
(youtube clip)
*Hardcore conservative posts this video*
*still complains about Obama turning the country communist*
*complains about liberal NBC*
Again, only jokes about Bush are funny while the same jokes about obama aren't. Really shows your one sidedness even though you still try to act as if you're some sort of neutral voice. The clip is funny as hell and telling as even the liberals in the media are catching on to this farce called a president. What a sad mistake and embarrassment for those who had the kool-aid brains to vote for him. I'm still laughing at all of you.
Well I'm surprised Elcabong completely misunderstood something I said. Here let me break it down for you so you can tell me why I'm wrong on it:
A hardcore conservative who always rants about NBC and liberal media posts the video. The video airs on NBC, so this mighty 'liberal' media is attacking Obama and not trying to defend him? Yet you guys will still constantly bash NBC as being some super liberal company who says "the one" can do no wrong or whatever you want to call him.
In that video it also says how Obama has really done nothing for the majority of his campaign promises, that people constantly said were going to lead towards communism. Yet you guys constantly still say the country is communist or socialist. Do you get what I'm saying, you can't say hes turning the country communist, if he hasn't done anything yet.
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truth @ 10th Oct 06:42PM:
Re: Obama Nobel Peace Prize Winner - HA! HA!
said by Elcabong :said by Dread :
You have Fox news as an avatar, you are now irrelevant lol
Typical first time response to an avatar i put on to piss off liberals and the moronic comments i get from people. Another one falls for it lol!
Your icon and posts fit together perfectly. We always know whatever you say it's going to be against the democrats and for the republicans. Exactly like fox news.
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mdaddyrabbit @ 11th Oct 01:09AM:
Nothing is surprising any more!
I have gotten over saying comments like " I can't believe that" I now say every morning of my life what will happen today. I mean does anything surprise us any more. Right is wrong and wrong is right, that's the way most items go down now. Everyone has always had an opinion about everything but the difference now is no one budges on their opinion even if they know they could be wrong. Well why should they when it doesn't make a difference. Nothing ever gets accomplished from an individual scale to a federal government scale because no one budges on an idea or opinion, all they do is argue and everyone around them loses. I mean no one every gains anything from everyone arguing.
What the Bush's did in the White House is over, we can not live in the past so why blame everything on Bush and the past. If it would change things now then it would be a good thing but it won't it just breeds more anger.
I don't look at government in the view of democrat or republican, white man or black man. I look at it from a right or wrong point of view. What the elected officials do, should be based on morals of right and wrong. Most of us were taught from birth to adults, right and wrong by our parents but as adults we tend to forget our teachings. For the people holding office, treat your job as a business not a club and base your decisions on the morals of right and wrong.
The United States is at a crossroads on many things, the moves that are made in the next 8 years will make us or break us. I don't care who gets the Nobel Peace Prize but I do care about how many troops get killed in foreign countries, I do care if Iran gets Nuclear weapons, I do care if our government goes broke borrowing money from China, I do care about terrorist activities in America. They could have given the Nobel Peace Prize to Ned the wine-o and it would not have bothered me in the least bit but when I hear about another one of our troops getting killed I get mad.
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Noah Vail @ 11th Oct 02:23AM:
The BBC, End Times & You.
The BBC Publishes a Climate Change Article that Fails to Wholly Demonize the Right.
In Response, nervous New York City-zens
prepare for the possible arrival of The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man
amid countless carnal rumors involving Dogs & Cats.
Holy Mother of Bo'B; where to begin?
I've just completed reading a BBC article on Global Cooling Global Warming Global Climate Change that not only acknowledged the existence of a countering point of view, it allowed uncensored quotes from the people who held them.
Yea, I thought the same thing. But it's no spoof.
Plainly put: I was amazed beyond all recollection.
I quickly ran outside,
triangulated the stars
and confirmed my planet...
I thoughtfully returned inside.
I suddenly found myself sobered by the thought
that the author will be found dead in the morning,
from an apparent accidental overdose of arsenic.
Anyway, it was an interesting bit of cosmic introspection.
Mentioned, was that there are non-man-made factors that could conceivably affect the temperature of the Earth.
YES it's blasphemy; even Dangerous Rhetoric of the Highest Order.
But it was also compelling. Reading it made me feel a little dangerous; like some kind of rebel.
It was as if Al Gore didn't have to pre-form ALL of my thoughts for me.
Ya know; I've heard it theorized
that the 1.99e30 kg mass of The Sun
yielding 1.37e3J of energy
on each square meter of the Earth exposed to it
might have a greater impact
on the Earth's temperature
than every single Hummer in Santa Barbara County
Combined.
Woah. You heard that right. The SUN is really that full of awesome power.
But then again, that's just a theory and Hummers are evil - EVIL.
Um, on 2nd thought Brothers and Sisters, I take it all back. Tell the NSAT&T monitors that I'm repenting right now of these filthy thoughts. They've no need to send anyone around.
In fact I'm going right this instant to my closest Bo'B reorientation clinic to be exposed to an ever-changing stream of reasonable dialog, full of hope, change and cooperative effort.
I just need a quick reminder on how to think. I'll be OK - Really. There isn't any need to strap me into the chair in front
of the MSNBC Video Wall of Instruction.
No need at all.
really.
NV
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In my perfect religion, a giant hole appears and sucks up all the lousy people.
I call it the Crapture.
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Noah Vail @ 11th Oct 02:57AM:
Re: Nothing is surprising any more!
said by mdaddyrabbit :
when I hear about another one of our troops getting killed I get mad.
Fortunately for you, reporting on the War Dead is maintaining the unusually low levels that began around the election.
I was listening to an interview with Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin. She was lamenting how media coverage of their protests abruptly stopped following the elections.
For the first time, the group is having difficulty getting interviewed. It appears she no longer has the press outlet where Code Pink might express any concerns of the President's handling of the war.
This article has been making the rounds as well.
»www.washingtonexaminer.com/polit···012.html
It seems the press is disconnecting from the only detail of our soldiers service that ever really held their attention.
My personal observation
is that most people I know
that had been consistently angry
about the war since it's start,
don't express anger about it anymore.
Regardless of any of this, I hope you find peace.
NV
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In my perfect religion, a giant hole appears and sucks up all the lousy people.
I call it the Crapture.
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telestar @ 11th Oct 11:05AM:
Windows 7 Ultimate 7600 DUMP
Looks like Redmond pulled the trigger, I was wondering how long they would let it ride.
My test box with 7 ultimate 7600 started reporting 'Not Genuine' this morning.
Just a FYI
:D
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mdaddyrabbit @ 11th Oct 11:50AM:
Nobel Peace Prize Money
I have no idea where Obama will donate the money, haven't heard. He should donate it to the children who's parent have got killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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amigo_boy @ 11th Oct 03:21PM:
Re: Nothing is surprising any more!
said by Noah Vail :
Fortunately for you, reporting on the War Dead is maintaining the unusually low levels that began around the election.
I was listening to an interview with Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin. She was lamenting how media coverage of their protests abruptly stopped following the elections.
I suspect it has more to do with the sharp decline in US casualties in Iraq (scroll to bottom to see red graph).
Casualties in Afghanistan are sharply higher. But, throughout the anti-Bush, anti-war movement it seemed like the public was opposed to the Iraq war, angry that we weren't focusing on Afghanistan. I got the impression the public wasn't angry over war casualties, but casualties due to a "mistake war." I.e., the frequently heard "how do you ask someone to be the last person to die for a mistake?"
The difference in sentiment about the two wars probably has something to do with the reduction in publicity. Anti-war groups probably don't want to admit that. They used sentiment against the Iraq war for a larger anti-war goal that I don't believe the public supported.
Mark
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TKJunkMail @ 11th Oct 07:16PM:
Re: Nobel Peace Prize Money
said by mdaddyrabbit :
I have no idea where Obama will donate the money, haven't heard. He should donate it to the children who's parent have got killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Great Idea.
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Elcabong @ 11th Oct 09:07PM:
Re: Nobel Peace Prize Money
said by TKJunkMail :said by mdaddyrabbit :
I have no idea where Obama will donate the money, haven't heard. He should donate it to the children who's parent have got killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Great Idea.
How bout give to acorn for their upcoming legal battles?
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bender @ 11th Oct 07:55PM:
Re: Just preorder
i'm game if i get some space in it?
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bender @ 11th Oct 08:12PM:
Re: Windows 7 Ultimate 7600 DUMP
lol
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rawgerz @ 11th Oct 09:29PM:
Re: The BBC, End Times & You.
Think about it this way. We have ice on this planet, what happens when the surrounding water warms around it? They break apart and float into areas that don't normally have them. The fresh water won't mix with the salt water and parts of the oceans stagnate, which should grow even colder.
So in theory we should all be experiencing longer, colder winters for a period of time before everything really takes a turn for the worse.
Seeing as how it's already cold as fuck now I'll bet you this winter will be nasty.
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You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority.
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rawgerz @ 11th Oct 09:31PM:
Re: Nobel Peace Prize Money
AIG could use more money.
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mdaddyrabbit @ 11th Oct 10:59PM:
Re: Nobel Peace Prize Money
I am sure it will get pi$$ed away!
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bender @ 11th Oct 11:49PM:
Re: C'mon bucko. Don't you want a Health Care plan?
great now i won't be able to sleep tonight :(
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bender @ 11th Oct 11:49PM:
Re: Nobel Peace Prize Money
i vote for WHO CARES?!
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KrK @ 13th Oct 03:23AM:
Re: The BBC, End Times & You.
Actually, you're kinda helping make the point. Global climate change has always been about the power of the sun. "The Greenhouse effect" they call it.
So, uh, yes, of course it is the sun providing the heat. We're just putting the planet inside the glasshouse!
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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